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Car Forum / Saab Cars / May 2007

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9-3 2002 Crank Position Sensor

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mleeds@hitechfluid.com - 01 May 2007 04:48 GMT
I have a 2002 9-3 that I suspect the Crank Posisiton Sensor has gone.
The starting is inconsistent...but it always does after a bit.  Does
the CPS seem like a possibility?

How does one go about changing the sensor?  Is there any pictures or
websites that describe this?

Thanks,
Fred W - 01 May 2007 14:01 GMT
> I have a 2002 9-3 that I suspect the Crank Posisiton Sensor has gone.
> The starting is inconsistent...but it always does after a bit.  Does
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>
> Thanks,

If the Crankshaft Position Sensor goes bad you would get a check engine
light and code to show that.  In other words, with no CEL code to
indicate the CPS it would be a shot in the dark.

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-Fred W

mleeds@hitechfluid.com - 01 May 2007 15:04 GMT
> mle...@hitechfluid.com wrote:
> > I have a 2002 9-3 that I suspect the Crank Posisiton Sensor has gone.
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> --
> -Fred W

I'm not getting any engine code at all.  I'm thinking a shot in the
dark is worthwhile at this point.  The symptoms seem to point towards
the CPS & it was relatively inexpensive.  I just can't find where it
is located.
Colin Stamp - 01 May 2007 18:30 GMT
>> mle...@hitechfluid.com wrote:
>> > I have a 2002 9-3 that I suspect the Crank Posisiton Sensor has gone.
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>the CPS & it was relatively inexpensive.  I just can't find where it
>is located.

The symptoms you've told us about don't particularly point to the
crank sensor. Are there more symptoms you haven't mentioned?

Cheers,

Colin.
mleeds@hitechfluid.com - 01 May 2007 22:20 GMT
There really hasn't been much for symtoms expect occasionally it won't
start.  Usually leaving it for 10 min  & trying again it will start.
The engine turns over with no problems.  It's been going on for about
two weeks.  Just today the check engine light came on.  There is
140,000 km on the vehicle.
still me - 01 May 2007 23:31 GMT
>There really hasn't been much for symtoms expect occasionally it won't
>start.  Usually leaving it for 10 min  & trying again it will start.
>The engine turns over with no problems.  It's been going on for about
>two weeks.  Just today the check engine light came on.  There is
>140,000 km on the vehicle.

Have the code checked, work from there. If you are in the USA<
Autozone will check the code for free.
Fred W - 02 May 2007 16:32 GMT
>>There really hasn't been much for symtoms expect occasionally it won't
>>start.  Usually leaving it for 10 min  & trying again it will start.
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> Have the code checked, work from there. If you are in the USA<
> Autozone will check the code for free.

Yes, now that you have a code to indicate the area of the problem you'll
have a much smaller haystack to look for that needle in...

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mleeds@hitechfluid.com - 07 May 2007 21:19 GMT
I changed the Crank Position Sensor on May 1st the car has started
everytime since.  It also startes better now.  The engine light didn't
stay on and I didn't bother to get the code checked.  My brother is a
mechanic and said generally it is the CPS when the vehicle only
occasionally starts & no code is left.  This is because the computer
needs this information to start the vechicle, but if the engine
doesn't run, the computer doesn't run, therefore no code can be
stored.  I figured for the price of a new CPS it was pretty cheap to
try, rather than paying shop rates.  To answer my original post the
CPS is on the front of the engine (in realtion to the car), near the
middle right (looking under the hood).  It is hidden by a steel plate
& put on with a torx bolt.
Fred W - 07 May 2007 23:08 GMT
> I changed the Crank Position Sensor on May 1st the car has started
> everytime since.  It also startes better now.  The engine light didn't
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> doesn't run, the computer doesn't run, therefore no code can be
> stored.  

Huh?  The computer runs whenever it has power.  I'm 100% positive a code
will be thrown for a crank position sensor failure in a no start
condition.  But it may fail in different ways

> I figured for the price of a new CPS it was pretty cheap to
> try, rather than paying shop rates.  To answer my original post the
> CPS is on the front of the engine (in realtion to the car), near the
> middle right (looking under the hood).  It is hidden by a steel plate
> & put on with a torx bolt.

Thanks.  Good to know.

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-Fred W

Colin Stamp - 01 May 2007 23:51 GMT
>There really hasn't been much for symtoms expect occasionally it won't
>start.  Usually leaving it for 10 min  & trying again it will start.
>The engine turns over with no problems.  It's been going on for about
>two weeks.  Just today the check engine light came on.  There is
>140,000 km on the vehicle.

There's a number of things that could cause that. Temperature sensors,
MAF/MAP sensors, air leaks, clogged injectors, fuel pump problems, low
compression etc. all spring to mind, but that's good news about the
check engine light. Now the computer's finally noticed something's
wrong, you should be able to get a bit of insight by taking it in and
getting the code read.

Cheers,

Colin.
 
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