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Car Forum / Saab Cars / November 2007

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2002 9-5 no driver side high beam

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Hanson Grumann - 25 Nov 2007 17:12 GMT
I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb. I
think there is something wrong with the wire. Is there a place where I can
find wiring schematics for this car? Thx.
Fred W - 25 Nov 2007 21:23 GMT
> I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb. I
> think there is something wrong with the wire. Is there a place where I can
> find wiring schematics for this car? Thx.

Check the fuse.  I recall that the headlights are fused independantly

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Hanson Grumann - 25 Nov 2007 22:42 GMT
The fuses seem to be intact (good).

>> I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb. I
>> think there is something wrong with the wire. Is there a place where I
>> can find wiring schematics for this car? Thx.
>
> Check the fuse.  I recall that the headlights are fused independantly
Neil O'C - 26 Nov 2007 19:23 GMT
> The fuses seem to be intact (good).
>
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This will be old news to regulars (and likely to Hanson), but I just
struggled with an absent low beam on my 97 900SEt.  Checked the
interior fuses, slapped a voltmeter on the connectors, no current.
Read a number of comments about the "orange relay", so I popped open
the relay box under the hood, and.....more fuses.  Popped #10 (LH Low
Beam) and had the culprit.  Relays were fine.

For other brand new SAAB-be's:  there are TWO fuseboxes!  Check
both.....

Are other folks having problems with the plastic headlamp connectors
literally crumbling inside the headlamp bucket?

Neil O'C
Gary Fritz - 25 Nov 2007 21:36 GMT
> I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb.
> I think there is something wrong with the wire.

This is a non-Aero, right?  So you don't have the xenon bulbs?

The xenon bulbs on the Aero don't have a separate high beam.  They have a
single bulb with a "shutter" that drops down over the bulb to prevent light
from shining out at higher angles.  *IF* you have the xenon bulbs, then I
would suspect the servo that controls the shutter.
Hanson Grumann - 25 Nov 2007 22:41 GMT
Linear. No xenon and no servo.

"Gary Fritz" <fritzxxx@xxxfrii.com> wrote in message

>> I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb.
>> I think there is something wrong with the wire.
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> from shining out at higher angles.  *IF* you have the xenon bulbs, then I
> would suspect the servo that controls the shutter.
Colin Stamp - 25 Nov 2007 22:10 GMT
>I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb. I
>think there is something wrong with the wire. Is there a place where I can
>find wiring schematics for this car? Thx.

I'm not sure about 2002 9-5s, but my 2001 9-3 has the infamous Hella
lamp-fail sensor, which tends to fail itself, causing the fault it's
supposed to detect.

It looks like a relay, but it's orange. It'll probably be in a
fuse/relay box under the bonnet. Try thumping the box. If the light
busts into life, then the sensor is almost certainly the culprit.

The standard failure mode is for the solder joints between the PCB and
the base to crack, so re-flowing them fixes it.

Cheers,

Colin.
Eeyore - 26 Nov 2007 05:12 GMT
> >I have no driver side high beam. There is nothing wrong with the bulb. I
> >think there is something wrong with the wire. Is there a place where I can
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> The standard failure mode is for the solder joints between the PCB and
> the base to crack, so re-flowing them fixes it.

I had this problem with my 9000.

Yes, resoldering does it. Thankfully.

Graham
Jasper Witt - 28 Nov 2007 00:42 GMT
"Colin Stamp" <col.dustbin@stamp.plus.com> wrote in message

> I'm not sure about 2002 9-5s, but my 2001 9-3 has the infamous Hella
> lamp-fail sensor, which tends to fail itself, causing the fault it's
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>
> Colin.

Colin, I'd like to thak you for helping to fix my car. The problem was
exactly where you suggested, the orange Hella lamp sensor digital relay made
in Germany. Someone suggested to replace the two transistors on the board
(one is PNP the other is NPN) and also replacing the two 8-pin IC chips,
they only cost a few cents at Digikey.com; but since I didn't want to wait
for the parts, I resoldered the solder joints as you suggested and now the
lamp fail sensor works like a charm. Thangs again for your kind help and I
also wish to thank all the others who were willing to help.

As it turns out, this orange lamp sensor is put together very poorly because
I see that there are many people out there who have the same problem. I had
the problem fixed in about 5 minutes. I wonder how many poor souls out there
pay the car dealer large sums of money to fix this small problem.

Thanks, guys.... :)
Colin Stamp - 28 Nov 2007 18:45 GMT
>Colin, I'd like to thak you for helping to fix my car.

No probs :o)

>The problem was
>exactly where you suggested, the orange Hella lamp sensor digital relay made
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>for the parts, I resoldered the solder joints as you suggested and now the
>lamp fail sensor works like a charm.

You did the right thing leaving the transistors and op-amps as they
were. If there was a problem with any of those, the symptoms would be
different - either false alarms or failure to detect real blown bulbs.
If it actually stops a headlight working, it can only be the solder
joints or the current shunts, which are just bits of metal.

>Thangs again for your kind help and I
>also wish to thank all the others who were willing to help.
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>
>Thanks, guys.... :)

Cheers,

Colin.
 
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