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Car Forum / Saab Cars / May 2008

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johannes - 20 Mar 2008 20:25 GMT
I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
doh!. Maybe it was because the pillar had reflective steel wrapped around it
like a mirror, so you didn't notice it in the side mirror. My mind must have
been wondering astray. Extensive damage to near side front passenger door, but
nothing beyond. Side mirror sheared off of course.
Charles C. - 20 Mar 2008 21:19 GMT
> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
> doh!. Maybe it was because the pillar had reflective steel wrapped around it
> like a mirror, so you didn't notice it in the side mirror. My mind must have
> been wondering astray. Extensive damage to near side front passenger door, but
> nothing beyond. Side mirror sheared off of course.

:-(

Similar happened to a friend two days ago (but not on a saab)

Find local botch up garage (for respray job);
Find used door from another saab ... I was looking yesterday on ebay
quite a few 9000's the age of yours.  See if there is one near you ...
buy the complete door and replace/respray.

I am sorry for your bad news.

Charles

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johannes - 21 Mar 2008 08:34 GMT
> > I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
> > pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
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>
> Charles

Yes, good idea. My natural instinct was to call up my fully comprehensive
insurance, LOL!, but was told that there would be a GBP 575 excess plus 2
years loss of NCB! I could cope with the loss of CNB, but the excess charge
is plain silly. Secondly, It would have to go to the insurer's repair shop,
which I  somehow don't trust very much. It might even be totalled, considering
how the insurer would view of the market value of a 15 year old car. Chances
are that they would send me a cheque GBP 1000 less 575 less NCB and then take
the car off me. Insurance = licence to print money IMO.
Charles C. - 21 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT
>>> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
>>> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> insurance, LOL!, but was told that there would be a GBP 575 excess plus 2
> years loss of NCB!

That is a lot of excess ... I won't ask why but your excess is fixed the
time you bought your insurance.  It does not change through the year.

I could cope with the loss of CNB, but the excess charge
> is plain silly. Secondly, It would have to go to the insurer's repair shop,
> which I  somehow don't trust very much. It might even be totalled, considering
> how the insurer would view of the market value of a 15 year old car. Chances
> are that they would send me a cheque GBP 1000 less 575 less NCB and then take
> the car off me. Insurance = licence to print money IMO.

I think the mirror alone might have been enough to make your car a
write-off.  I would say the car would be worth £500.

Whilst you don't have the passenger side mirror the car is classed as
unroadworthy (it would not have passed an MOT) so look for a 2nd hand
door asap.

Only other option is if anyone makes door skins for saabs, a completely
new door is going to hurt you a lot.

Take care
Charles

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johannes - 21 Mar 2008 21:32 GMT
> >>> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
> >>> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> unroadworthy (it would not have passed an MOT) so look for a 2nd hand
> door asap.

It might not pass MOT if not in original condition, but is it really
unroadworthy? Older cars had only a rear view mirror. Sometimes a
"wing mirror", but that was a luxury item. I will of course fix the
car when I find the parts.
Charles C. - 21 Mar 2008 21:38 GMT
>>>>> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
>>>>> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> It might not pass MOT if not in original condition, but is it really

a 2nd hand door is original, it is just 2nd hand.

> unroadworthy? Older cars had only a rear view mirror. Sometimes a
> "wing mirror", but that was a luxury item. I will of course fix the
> car when I find the parts.

I "believe" if the manufacturer has fitted a passenger mirror it has to
be there.  (I can be wrong tho).  You know you can ask in the uk car
groups but you may be flamed if you ask an MOT related question.

Charles

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johannes - 21 Mar 2008 21:54 GMT
> >>>>> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
> >>>>> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> >> I think the mirror alone might have been enough to make your car a
> >> write-off.  I would say the car would be worth £500.

Next time I will switch to TPTF insurance; the comprehensive is really
useless at this stage.

> >> Whilst you don't have the passenger side mirror the car is classed as
> >> unroadworthy (it would not have passed an MOT) so look for a 2nd hand
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> be there.  (I can be wrong tho).  You know you can ask in the uk car
> groups but you may be flamed if you ask an MOT related question.

I guess it would fail MOT, but it just passed a couple of days ago
before the accident. But does a failed MOT necessarily mean that the
car is unroadworthy? I know e.g. that you are allowed to drive a MOT
failure if the car is safe and it is on the way to a repair shop.
Anyway, that is probably OT.
Adrian - 25 Mar 2008 13:45 GMT
Charles C. ("Charles C." <c.k.christacopoulos.removeme.@dundee.ac.uk>)
gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

> I "believe" if the manufacturer has fitted a passenger mirror it has to
> be there.  (I can be wrong tho).  You know you can ask in the uk car
> groups but you may be flamed if you ask an MOT related question.

Not at all - plenty asked there. The standard answer, though, is
"www.motuk.co.uk" - the full tester's manual is online.

Anyway - the only things I can see that it'd fail on are if there's any
sharp edges (danger to pedestrians), or the door won't open/close from
interior and exterior handles.

The passenger door mirror only needs to be there if there's no interior
mirror.
johannes - 03 May 2008 14:19 GMT
> >>>>> I had convinced myself that I had parked in the middle box of three between
> >>>>> pillars and that it was OK the swing the Saab out. Unfortunately I was wrong,
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> Charles

Got hold of a complete door from ebay £40, though wrong colour. I bought
it anyway since I guessed that there would be little chance of finding the
correct colour. Had it re-sprayed to correct colour; the guy who did it is
a genius; the color is an exact match for the eucalyptus. A complicated
procedure, since everything had to be come off. Original glass (etched
reg No) and door handles/lock fitted. Everything now works again.

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