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Car Forum / Saab Cars / March 2008

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Bernie Schmitt - 23 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT
I have a 2000 95 SE (V6) - it's what we in the states would call a station
wagon.  Auto has 90k miles.  I am original owner, all periodic maintenance
done at the dealer.

I just had the 90k mile service performed.

The message center had indicated the alarm needed servicing.

This turned into a replacie the siren - with a part price of US$313.00, plus
labor.

In addition I had asked to have a couple of dashboard light bulbs replaced
(specifically for the "Econ," the "Off,"  the "Air Recirculation," and the
"Rear Window Defrost" buttons.  Initial estimate had been about $50.00.  The
dealer indicated that changing light bulbs in the center dashboard took a
lot of labor, and requotes at $250.00.  I declined.

This car has been expensive to service all along.  Is this the dealer, or
just Saab?
still just me - 23 Mar 2008 20:39 GMT
>This turned into a replacie the siren - with a part price of US$313.00, plus
>labor.
eeeuroparts has the Siren for $281 so $313 is actually a good price
from the dealer. WHile that's a lot for a siren, I don't know that
it's non-typical for other manufacturers. Nothing is cheap anymore.

>In addition I had asked to have a couple of dashboard light bulbs replaced
>(specifically for the "Econ," the "Off,"  the "Air Recirculation," and the
>"Rear Window Defrost" buttons.  Initial estimate had been about $50.00.  The
>dealer indicated that changing light bulbs in the center dashboard took a
>lot of labor, and requotes at $250.00.  I declined.

The issue is that the dash has to be pulled to replace the lights. The
dealer is not very sharp if he didn't realize that right up front.
Considering the amount of work, it's not a lot to pay. But, this is
bad design on Saab's part. It's somewhat surprising considering their
engineering is usually very good with maintenance in mind.

>This car has been expensive to service all along.  Is this the dealer, or
>just Saab?

It will cost you more to service any European car in the USA since
there are less sold vs. American or Japanese. Dealers charge more for
labor on more expensive makes. This is true of all makes - the
mechanic who works on a Lexus charges out at a higher rate at the
dealer than when he works on a Toyota (same mechanic, same car -
stamped "Toyota" in the door frame and sold in Japan as a Toyota).

All cars are expensive to repair these days, and they all have
engineering issues (I can tell you some Nissan stories if you like
:-). Luxury cars are more expensive, because dealers stick it to you
whenever they can.
Colin Stamp - 24 Mar 2008 16:58 GMT
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>>In addition I had asked to have a couple of dashboard light bulbs replaced
>>(specifically for the "Econ," the "Off,"  the "Air Recirculation," and the
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>bad design on Saab's part. It's somewhat surprising considering their
>engineering is usually very good with maintenance in mind.

That sounds really crap :o(

The 9-3 of the same year has all the ACC controls in a module that you
can just pull out from the front. It's a 5 minute job to change bulbs
on that.

Cheers,

Colin.
still just me - 27 Mar 2008 21:41 GMT
>That sounds really crap :o(
>
>The 9-3 of the same year has all the ACC controls in a module that you
>can just pull out from the front. It's a 5 minute job to change bulbs
>on that.

Colin:

I may have gotten it wrong - I read his post quickly as dash lights.
If they are all on the ACC unit they should be easy to replace.
Anything in a switch should just pop right out.
Ron - 23 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT
You're lucky that just the siren needed to be replaced. The unit must
be able to read the resistance of the siren and report to the ECU. It
could have been the batteries in unit which, by Saab design, are not
replaceable by the dealer. That would have been $1200 plus labor.
However, many DIYs have replaced the batteries fo $20... Ron

>I have a 2000 95 SE (V6) - it's what we in the states would call a station
>wagon.  Auto has 90k miles.  I am original owner, all periodic maintenance
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>This car has been expensive to service all along.  Is this the dealer, or
>just Saab?
ngu - 24 Mar 2008 15:29 GMT
Incredible that you go to the dealer for "all periodic maintenance".  No
wonder the high cost.

For a car of that age (2000), most owners would go to the indy and save
$$$.

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