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Car Forum / Saturn Cars / January 2005

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Saturn Ion Tires

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sturg57@sbcglobal.net - 16 Jan 2005 01:47 GMT
They suck a.s in the snow,why a wide tread tire?.
GCC - 19 Jan 2005 23:55 GMT
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks they suck..

> They suck a.s in the snow,why a wide tread tire?.
Biker Geek - 21 Jan 2005 19:01 GMT
>  Glad I'm not the only one who thinks they suck..
> > They suck a.s in the snow,why a wide tread tire?.

Me three.  I've been driving my Ion (non-traction control,
non-ABS)[1] in the snow the last couple of weeks and I'm
astonished at how badly it handles.  I've driven early-model
Datsun "Z" cars in the snow.  I learned to drive on V8, front
engine, rear drive American land barges and they handle better
than this.

On top of it, the five-speed automatic is useless in snow.  I'd
love to see a "winter mode" on it that starts you off in second
gear, as starting off in first almost guarantees wheelspin.  I'd
also love to see the ability to lock the transmission in a gear
*other* than first.  F'rex, the "2" position on most traditional
automatics limits you to first and second gears, which helps with
engine braking while not limiting your speed too much.

[1]This is a car I inherited from my mom when she passed away.  I
guess she considered those features "optional" because she wasn't
going to drive the car in snow.  At her age, all trips were
optional--supermarket trips could wait a couple of days till the
roads were plowed and salted and sanded. :-/  If I had been
ordering the car for myself, I might have gotten those features.
I would also have gotten a manual rather than an automatic.

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NoSetFine - 28 Jan 2005 21:00 GMT
Ha.
Suck a.s is RIGHT!!!

Get this:  (ION3) I survived last winter (barely) but this one, now that
they're worn down another 1/32" or so... COMPLETELY USELESS.  I took it to a
garage to get snows on (aka "man-eaters" judging from the size of the tread)
but they had to get 2 other mechanics to push the car into the garage -
there was a 6" slope into the bay and the stock tires wouldn't grip enough
to even bring it into the bay!!  They even got a bit of a run at it - no
dice.  Might as well have been chained to the light post behind it - no way
was it going to drive in there on its own.

So... that means the stock tires have LESS TRACTION than your average
steel-toed Kodiaks....  how's that for pathetic.

:((
Damn you, GM you cheap bastiges!!
-e

> They suck a.s in the snow,why a wide tread tire?.
 
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