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>> My '96 SL has an intermittant coolant leak which I traced to the
>>water pump area. It only seems to leave a small puddle when it has
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> Permatex on both the water pump and engine block flanges. It's been
> over two years now, without a drop leaking...
With respect, Permatex is a brand and not a product. They market a wide
range of products some of which are suitable for this application.
IMHO proper installation of O rings require some type of lubrication in
order to allow the rubber to squirm or move into place as the part is
tightened, and also to prevent the rubber from being cut or abraded. You
also do not want the ring to seal or bond itself to the housing as you may
need to remove it at some future time. The best product will vary according
to specific application but in general almost anything will work, many
people use grease as it will also help to hold the ring in place as the part
is positioned but RTV silicone also works well, plain oil or in this case
coolant will also work. Most of the Permatex gasket glues will work but
some of the hardening types will be difficult to remove if you need to
remove the part in the future. Do not overuse anything as the excess will
only contaminate the contained fluid, (in this case the coolant). As a
general rule lubricating with the contained fluid is seldom wrong.
I would also add that water pump seal failure is often caused by the drop
out of the abrasive silicate used in standard aluminum compatible antifreeze
coolant to reduce galvanic corrosion between the iron and aluminum parts of
the cooling system. Now would be a good time to drain and flush the cooling
system then wash with a solution of Calgon dishwasher detergent before
repeated thorough flushing and installing new non-silicate type long life
coolant. It is important to remove ALL of the standard coolant before
installing most types of long life coolants as most are incompatible.
Those who continue to use standard aluminum compatible coolant and
especially those who use old coolant will probably need to change their
water pumps sooner than those who do not.
Happy trails, YMMV
William Hughes - 17 Jun 2006 00:58 GMT
>> When I changed out my water pump ('95 SW), I used just a thin layer of
>> Permatex on both the water pump and engine block flanges. It's been
>> over two years now, without a drop leaking...
>
>With respect, Permatex is a brand and not a product. They market a wide
>range of products some of which are suitable for this application.
Around here (San Antonio, Texas) "Permatex" is the term used
generically to refer to any silicone-based sealant. In this case, the
black, high-temperature, oil-resistant variant. Comes in a blue
squeeze tube. You are correct; I should have been more precise - not
everybody speaks Texan...

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Private - 17 Jun 2006 02:56 GMT
>>> When I changed out my water pump ('95 SW), I used just a thin layer of
>>> Permatex on both the water pump and engine block flanges. It's been
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> squeeze tube. You are correct; I should have been more precise - not
> everybody speaks Texan...
IIRC, In the pre RTV days 'Permatex' #2 was a black general purpose tacky
non-hardening gasket glue. I think it was called #2 because it got all over
everything and was hard to get off your hands or tools, I don't remember a
#1 :-)
Bob Shuman - 17 Jun 2006 03:32 GMT
Permatex #1 is still sold. It is a brown hardening gasket sealer (as opposed
to the black non-hardening silicone based sealant for the #2). Permatex
also makes a Blue RTV and a black high temperature RTV sealant. I generally
use a little blue RTV in the channel and on the mating surfaces with water
pump O-rings.
Bob
>>>> When I changed out my water pump ('95 SW), I used just a thin layer of
>>>> Permatex on both the water pump and engine block flanges. It's been
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> over everything and was hard to get off your hands or tools, I don't
> remember a #1 :-)