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Car Forum / Saturn Cars / August 2007

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Broken Exhaust Manifold Stud: 2002 VUE 2.2 FWD

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tim.beagle@gmail.com - 23 Aug 2007 14:15 GMT
Hi folks,

Unfortunately, one of the studs on my exhaust manifold broke,
resulting in a light ticking moise when the engine is revved (it
sounds like a valve noise). My Saturn mechanic said it happens all the
time to the 2.2 engines and it's the stud on the passenger side of the
engine. He also said he'd have to fail me on a safety inspection
because it's an exhaust leak.

If he could retrieve the broken stud, the cost would be about $250. If
not, he'd have to send the head to a machine shop and have it taken
out. Unfortunately, he was unable to reach the broken stud. The labour
charge is 9 hours for this job abd the machine shop would charge
around $250 (if the head was unmolested). The total bill would be
around $1200.

I haven't done anything yet, but I'm interested in knowing if anyone
else is in the same boat. My comment to my service manager was that a
common problem that was cause to fail a safety inspection should be a
recall item. Remember when the S series cars were recalled for head
gasket failures? Same sort of idea, but it isn't a safety concern.

What do you think, folks?

Tim Delaney
Stewiacke, NS, Canada
2002 VUE FWD, 5-speed, 146,000 km
SnoMan - 23 Aug 2007 21:06 GMT
>Hi folks,
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>Stewiacke, NS, Canada
>2002 VUE FWD, 5-speed, 146,000 km

This cost seems a bit excessive.  It seems to me that if you cannot do
it yourself you should be able to find someone to drill the bolt stud
in the car with a angle drill and a cobalt bit. YOu could drill a hole
in it and try a easy out or simply drill bit out and retap hole but I
see no reason why this could not be done on engine by anyone
reasonably competent. If not I think I would look for another head in
a bone yard and swap head because it would be quicker to do and then
you can maybe have old head repaired at some time when you can find a
cheap way to do it and then sell it to recoup some of cost. I would
not pay 1200 bucks to have them pull head, send it to a machine shop
and then replace it. While it is apart, have all manifold bolts
replaced too.  
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tim.beagle@gmail.com - 24 Aug 2007 15:28 GMT
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Thanks Sno Man. The whole thing is a bit of a pain. If the dealer
claims they can't reach the remains of the old stud, I doubt I'd be
able to reach it, and it kills me to think I have to carack open a
perfectly good engine or swap the head for one of unknown background.
According to my technician, it's the one stud that snaps because of a
flange on the manifold interfering with the correct seating of the
stud.

Tim
 
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