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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / February 2005Ford tranny question; somewhat ON topic.
We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd direct and 4th overdrive. I ran across a couple of 80-something Fords in a wrecking yard in Edmonton with 4 speed boxes. Does anyone here know how to recognize a tranny with 4th over? Needless to say, the shift knobs are gone. Trannies are still in place, so the simple expedient of counting revs on the one shaft versus the other isn't readily available. Anybody know a tag number, or perhaps a code in the V.I.N? I can get these for $95 each out the door if they are the right ones. Gord Richmond I'm afraid I can't tell you how to identify one but I had a 78 Ford Granada with one of those. Six cylinder, stick, 2 door, battleship gray with a maroon interior, second best car I ever had. Bought it with 100K on it, drove it another 100k and the only thing I had to do to it was replace the water pump ($20). Jeff DeWitt > We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge > pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Gord Richmond Thanks for the tip, Jeff. I will add Granadas to the list to check when at the wreckers. My father bought a '76 Granada, and it proved to be a very durable car for him. Gord Richmond > We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge > pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Gord Richmond What you want is called an Orion box because on the side of the case it is marked Orion. It has a cast iron case. If you are looking at a trans with an aluminum case it is called a SROD and is junk. They are famous for having glass gears (they break very easily even with a stock 6 cylinder!). The Orions are most common in Econolines and F100's and they work well but do have a stretch between gears. I have two of them right now and have used them in all kinds of stuff when I was looking for a cheap overdrive. Hawkrod >>We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge >>pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > right now and have used them in all kinds of stuff when I was looking > for a cheap overdrive. Hawkrod Also I think there was a version of the A833 MoPar tranny that worked as you describe as well, it was used in Dusters I believe nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel And 225 cid six powered 1/2ton trucks as well. I had a '78 Dodge 1/2 ton Utiline short bed w/ the 225 and the 4spd OD. >>> We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge >>> pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > nate Cool! That will definitely help for the next trip to the wreckers. This is a U-Pull-It place, and they sell trannies for $69.95 plus $25 "core" charge. Why they charge "core" on parts that will never get rebuilt is beyond me. Why don't they just flat-out say the part costs94.95 and be done with it? Gord Richmond Scap value. > Cool! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Gord Richmond SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Challenger (Green Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2 62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div) 56 Golden Hawk 50 Commander Coupe Well given that a manual tranny might weigh 50 pounds, and scrap iron goes for what? $50 per ton, the core charge far exceeds the possible scrap value. I'll have to ask them if they will accept an equal mass of scrap metal for their core, I guess. I have no quibble at with paying real core charges, particularly where the cores are scarce and are NEEDED for rebuild. IMHO, this is just a gimmick to enable them to quote low parts prices, and then bulk it up at the back end. Call it a recycling deposit instead, intended to ensure that recyclable materials get turned back in to the yard. Sorry about the mini-rant. <G> Gord Richmond Take a look at this link and it should fill you in on the transmissions you are writing about. http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/imposters.htm Wiz. > We've had mention made here in the past about certain Ford and Dodge > pickup models that came with a 4 speed floor shift manual with 3rd [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Gord Richmond "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in news:qBSSd.3416$MY6.2388 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: > http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/imposters.htm 81 and 82 Ford Mustangs amd Mercury Capris had a toploader 4 speed that was overdrive it was made by Tremic says so on the case the way to tell from outside is the front lever for 3-4 is up side down from 1-2 AJ Thanks to all who responded. I think maybe at least one of the pickups in the yard had an SROD tranny, as it seemed to be aluminum. I checked out the David Kee website, and learned the distinguishing marks for the OD toploaders. I can think of a couple of Studes I won which would benefit from this conversion. Gord Richmond |
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