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John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 20:34 GMT
   This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to
manual windows. BTW, I bought the 2R truck in the background too, story
to follow.
http://www.stude.com/Speedster/
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56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
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Paul Johnson - 14 Mar 2005 20:51 GMT
>    This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
> turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
> windows. BTW, I bought the 2R truck in the background too, story to
> follow.
> http://www.stude.com/Speedster/
Hey Nate,
There's you some good grille side panels <G>.
Paul Johnson
John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 21:07 GMT
Funny, I just told N8, I'd have to engrave my name on the underside when
the car shows up. <g>

>>   This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
>>turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
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> There's you some good grille side panels <G>.
> Paul Johnson

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

oldcarfart - 14 Mar 2005 21:26 GMT
Geeze JP, the guy looks like he is not far from circleing the drain,
why not pay up front and wait until he goes for the dirtnap so you
don't break his heart!
John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 21:48 GMT
  Those pictures were taken awhile back when there was some hope for
his health.Sal is taking the truck quickly to try and finish it in the
weeks he has left and I made just that very offer to Stan. As sick as he
is, he seems to want to get everything in order and leave as little as
possible for his wife to deal with.  I'll ask again if Sal could just
help him get everything together for the Speedster and wait, but I can't
force the issue.

> Geeze JP, the guy looks like he is not far from circleing the drain,
> why not pay up front and wait until he goes for the dirtnap so you
> don't break his heart!

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Lee - 14 Mar 2005 22:50 GMT
Hey Calvin,

Welcome to the NG..... don't be a dickhead.

>> Geeze JP, the guy looks like he is not far from circleing the drain,
>> why not pay up front and wait until he goes for the dirtnap so you
>> don't break his heart!

Lee DeLaBarre
Daytona62
Stan... - 15 Mar 2005 00:10 GMT
Still lurking here on the NG and enjoy reading the comments.(G)
Stan...

>   Those pictures were taken awhile back when there was some hope for his
> health.Sal is taking the truck quickly to try and finish it in the weeks
> he has left and I made just that very offer to Stan. As sick as he is,
he
> seems to want to get everything in order and leave as little as possible
> for his wife to deal with.  I'll ask again if Sal could just help him
get
> everything together for the Speedster and wait, but I can't force the
> issue.
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> 55 Speedster
> 50 2R 10 truck

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John Poulos - 15 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT
   Hell, I knew you already and didn't know it <g> Hang it there, Sal
is going put that 2R together ASAP.  BTW, what size tires do I need to
buy for it, if you know.

> Still lurking here on the NG and enjoy reading the comments.(G)
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64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Jeff Rice - 15 Mar 2005 01:02 GMT
And that is a great thing!
The NG, and chat, and the internet in general has made so many personal
connections out there..
Connections that never would have happened a few years ago.
Sad thing about chat, is you never get past the screen name sometimes.
Bob40 mentioned Stan in the chat rooms and I remember many a chat with Stan
present...
We are so close, yet so numb sometimes...
You hang in there Stan... The ride is awesome, isn't it?
Jeff

"Stan..."wrote...
> Still lurking here on the NG and enjoy reading the comments.(G)
> Stan...
John Poulos - 15 Mar 2005 01:23 GMT
    I just spent a half hour reading all of Stan's NG posts, and a
light went on, "That Stan" <g> Here I am  talking to him on the phone,
sending him to my web page to get to know me and the rest, and all the
while I've known the SOB for a couple of years.  It's a damn good thing
I didn't tell him I was young guy looking for his first Speedster as
part of my smoozing.

> And that is a great thing!
> The NG, and chat, and the internet in general has made so many personal
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>>Still lurking here on the NG and enjoy reading the comments.(G)
>>Stan...

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Mark Anderson - 15 Mar 2005 02:04 GMT
Stan and John,

That's the most beautiful Speedster I've ever laid my eyes on.

Mark
65 Cruiser
John Poulos - 15 Mar 2005 02:13 GMT
  Don't you think the pink is kind of "girlie." <g>  Just kidding Stan,
it's gonna attract some attention on Maryland roads.

> Stan and John,
>
> That's the most beautiful Speedster I've ever laid my eyes on.
>
> Mark
> 65 Cruiser

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Nate Nagel - 15 Mar 2005 02:17 GMT
Every time I see that pink, a certain Rolling Stones song starts going
through my head <G>  But it is a sweet looking car.

nate

(I think it would look good, too...  black and grey?  yeah baby.  evil.)

>   Don't you think the pink is kind of "girlie." <g>  Just kidding Stan,
> it's gonna attract some attention on Maryland roads.
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>> Mark
>> 65 Cruiser

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Nate Nagel - 15 Mar 2005 02:19 GMT
Just had a thought...  if that speedster still has the original exhaust
hangers on it, I need to spend some quality time under it.  Don Simmons
expressed an interest in repopping the driver's side tailpipe hanger in
stainless, but neither one of us is sure what it should look like :)  (I
just kinda fudged something together on the 56J)

nate

> Funny, I just told N8, I'd have to engrave my name on the underside when
> the car shows up. <g>
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>> There's you some good grille side panels <G>.
>> Paul Johnson

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John Poulos - 15 Mar 2005 02:39 GMT
N8, I can assure you that you'll have plenty of time underneath all my
cars as I get older. <g>

> Just had a thought...  if that speedster still has the original exhaust
> hangers on it, I need to spend some quality time under it.  Don Simmons
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>>> There's you some good grille side panels <G>.
>>> Paul Johnson

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Grumpy au Contraire - 15 Mar 2005 02:50 GMT
If you're referring to the hangar to the rear of the axle, it's the same
as Avanti's etc.  L & R are opposite pairs.

JT

> Just had a thought...  if that speedster still has the original exhaust
> hangers on it, I need to spend some quality time under it.  Don Simmons
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Nate Nagel - 15 Mar 2005 04:14 GMT
I don't think we're envisioning the same thing... on the earlier cars
with dual exhaust the tailpipes are routed kinda funky, the driver's
side goes almost directly underneath the frame rail.

nate

> If you're referring to the hangar to the rear of the axle, it's the same
> as Avanti's etc.  L & R are opposite pairs.
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Grumpy au Contraire - 16 Mar 2005 00:11 GMT
It is exactly the opposite on my Power Hawk for each side.

JT

> I don't think we're envisioning the same thing... on the earlier cars
> with dual exhaust the tailpipes are routed kinda funky, the driver's
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Rob Stokes - 15 Mar 2005 07:28 GMT
Man...you are *really* mean to Nate sometimes

<g!>

Rob

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> >    This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
> > turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> There's you some good grille side panels <G>.
> Paul Johnson
Dave Lester - 14 Mar 2005 21:06 GMT
>    This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
> turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
> windows. BTW, I bought the 2R truck in the background too, story to
> follow.
> http://www.stude.com/Speedster/

I'm certainly happy for you and the owners-to-be!  However, it breaks my
heart to see an old fellow having to part with his pride and joys.  It's
like looking into a crystal ball, and seeing your own future.  Play while ya
can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle finger of fate is
gonna stab ya where it hurts.
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Paul Johnson - 14 Mar 2005 21:11 GMT
> ...  However, it breaks my heart to see an old fellow having to part with
> his pride and joys.  It's like looking into a crystal ball, and seeing
> your own future.  Play while ya can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know
> when the fickle finger of fate is gonna stab ya where it hurts.

Well said Dave.  I was thinking the same thing as I looked at the pix. The
look on the old gent's face says it all.
Paul Johnson
Dave Lester - 14 Mar 2005 21:17 GMT
> The look on the old gent's face says it all.

Yep.  Couldn't tell for sure if he had a tear in his eye or not, but he put
one in mine.
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John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 21:33 GMT
   I suggested to him wife that he might want to wait a bit and to see
what happens with his health, but they both seem to think he's ready to
go. All I could think of is that had something like like that would have
happened to a NG'er, we'd have made damn sure he'd finished the truck.
We're lucky to have the support group we have here, in good health and
in bad.

>>The look on the old gent's face says it all.
>
> Yep.  Couldn't tell for sure if he had a tear in his eye or not, but he put
> one in mine.

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

bob40 - 14 Mar 2005 23:40 GMT
Had many a nice visit with Stan in the Monday chat room.He often talked
about taking the Speedster out to stretch it's legs.

Bob40
John Poulos - 15 Mar 2005 00:24 GMT
   I never knew he was on there, I'll have to mention it.

> Had many a nice visit with Stan in the Monday chat room.He often talked
> about taking the Speedster out to stretch it's legs.
>
> Bob40

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 21:25 GMT
   Yes indeed. StudeBob gave him my info a few months back to help him
sell the Speedster because tests showed he had terminal cancer, than
another test looked better. As it turned out, the first test was
correct, so he call StudeBob to give him some Studebaker parts he had
laying around, He than tried his best to finish the 2R before he left
us, but got too weak maybe a few weeks away from finishing it. When I
next spoke to his wife, she told me what he wanted for the Speedster and
we talked about a package price for both. When Stan told me what he
wanted for the truck, I had to tell him it was too little for even a
unfinished truck and offered more.  ( I have to sleep at night)
    I plan on haveing Sal get the truck ASAP, finish it and hopefully
take it back to him for a show or at least a drive. The old guy was
worried about trying to get all the parts togeather for the truck so I
asked Sal to take a day and let him sit in a chair and point to what
needed loading. Bob commented that Stan would not let him take pictures
of the Speedster because he needed to wash an polish it first.  What a
sweet old gent, he's spenting what little time he has left trying to tie
up all the loose ends.

>>   This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
>>turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle finger of fate is
> gonna stab ya where it hurts.

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Robert Black - 14 Mar 2005 21:53 GMT
Very nice Speedster,and a sad story.
>    Yes indeed. StudeBob gave him my info a few months back to help him
> sell the Speedster because tests showed he had terminal cancer, than
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> ya can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle finger of fate
>> is gonna stab ya where it hurts.
Lee - 14 Mar 2005 22:50 GMT
I have to admire the old guy's detirmination to get these taken care
of before he passes.  

When I bought the four Hawks in Illinois last month, it was the widow
who had to 'deal' with all the paperwork (death certificates,
notarized letters, etc.) that the state requires once you are gone and
finding someone who would commit to all four cars in a lot (the one
decent one and the three 'turds' that went with it) .

As much as he loves the car and the truck, I am sure it is his love
for his wife that is pushing him to tie up the loose ends before he
goes.  I only hope that when my time comes I have enough advanced
warning to be able to do the same for Debbie.  I know my friends here
would make sure all was taken care of but would not want to lean on
you guys for that.

Sounds like Sal will be doing him a hell of a service by trying to
complete the truck and get it back out to him so he can possibly
realize the dream he had of that truck being finished.  I am sure he
would love to take it for a drive and possibly head out to a local
meet with it.

>    Yes indeed. StudeBob gave him my info a few months back to help him
>sell the Speedster because tests showed he had terminal cancer, than
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle finger of fate is
>> gonna stab ya where it hurts.

Lee DeLaBarre
Daytona62
Studeman - 14 Mar 2005 22:01 GMT
We had this same issue a couple years ago- when Carl Shontz passed... He
also had several cars... and we left them at his home until his time
came. I hope in some way.. they helped ease his passing.

Ray

>>   This beauty will be headed to Md in a week or so. BTW, the 'engine
>>turned' disks under the widow crank were done for the conversion to manual
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle finger of fate is
> gonna stab ya where it hurts.
John Poulos - 14 Mar 2005 23:06 GMT
   I'm dealing with the opposite issue. His time is close and he wants
the cars, parts and the rest to be gone before him. Thanks to StudeBob
for moving the iron last year. I only hope that he hangs around long
enough for Sal to finish the truck. Even with that, he said "Have Sal
finish it for you if you want" I swear he's afraid we'd waste the extra
effort if he wasn't around when it was done.
   If I have the advance notice, I'd do the same and I have a lot of
crap to sell. Poor N8, he'll be working in my garage long after I'm
gone. <g>
> We had this same issue a couple years ago- when Carl Shontz passed... He
> also had several cars... and we left them at his home until his time
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> Play while ya can, guys 'n gals!  Ya just never know when the fickle
>> finger of fate is gonna stab ya where it hurts.

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk #2
62 GT Hawk (Ind. Div)
56 Golden Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

 
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