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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / April 2005

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Good Studebaker Saturday

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Jeff DeWitt - 18 Apr 2005 03:18 GMT
Drove the Champ to work yesterday morning, fortunately things were going
well so I didn't have to hang around very long, so I went hunting a
small part of my not misspent enough youth.

I've got a kind of interesting long term project going on, that in the
end makes no difference but it's fun.  Many years ago, back in the Red
Lobster days when I was driving around in my Hawk there was a place we
used to go to party.  It was a neat place, you would turn off of the
main road, go past a graveyard, through the streets of a subdivision
with no houses, and then through the woods on a dirt track.  After
driving through the woods a ways a trail led down onto the wooded
floodplain by the Neuse River.  On the other side of the river there was
a HUGE rock, the thing must have been 4 or 5 stories tall.  One time I
drove out there in my Mom's Datsun B-210 and managed to get it stuck in
the mud up the the floorboards.  The next morning I went back out there
and got it unstuck (the ground and the mud had frozen overnight), but it
was unstuck on the wrong side of the mud, so of course I got it just as
stuck again only this time pointed in the other direction!  Got a friend
of mine to come out with his Studebaker Champ pickup and pull the thing
out of the mud (got to love those Studes!).  It's funny that I got Mom's
Datsun stuck in there but never got my Hawk (with about 4" of ground
clearance) stuck.

I often wanted to try to find that place back, but it's complicated by a
couple of things, one is that about 30 years have past, the other is
that floodplain is now the bottom of Falls Lake.  I did some hunting
using Microsoft's Terraserver site and thought I found a couple of
likely spots, and Saturday drove out there in the truck (of course).
Well, I burned about a third a tank of gas driving around on a beautiful
Saturday afternoon and didn't find it.  However I did visit Falls Dam
for the first time, and also Blue Jay Point county park.  I ought to be
able to find the rock using a topographical map, and the graveyard
should still be there (unless they moved it for the lake).  There is a
listing of old Wake County graveyards available online, but there are a
LOT of them and it will take a while to work through the list.  Like I
said, it's not a big deal, but a fun little project that gives me an
excuse to do some research on the web and ride around northern Wake County.

This afternoon I drove out to a nearby state forest Murphy and I like to
visit, partly for a nice walk in the woods and partly to take some
pictures of an unusual Jeep I found in the woods.  If anyone is
interested here are a few pictures...

http://community.webshots.com/album/324748565IrbGEE

I put about 300 miles on that old truck this weekend, once I do
something about that seat I want to go on a real road trip!

Jeff DeWitt
Gordon Richmond - 18 Apr 2005 04:12 GMT
Jeff,

If I'm not mistaken, that's an M715, built by Kaiser Jeep in the late
'50s - early '60s.

Still lots of good parts on it. Is the Jeep for sale, or is it
abandoned on public land? There is probably a collector somewhere who
would want it, you know. If you know it's abandoned, or if you can buy
it real cheap, you could probably make a few bucks selling things like
the winch, the electrical parts, and gages and composite lights.

You might want to go to <www.G503.com> and post a link to one of the
pics in one of the forums there. Lots of helpful Jeep folks there.

Gord Richmond
Jeff DeWitt - 18 Apr 2005 05:17 GMT
On the edge of a North Carolina State Educational Forest I found a
collection of abandoned government vehicles, needless to say I had to
check it out.  Most of them were Dodge and Chebby pickups, there was one
bigger International, a Metro van (I think) and this Jeep.  I assume the
state owns these but how anyone would get them out of the clutches of
the government I have no idea.

I've been told that "Tornado" six is short lived and VERY expensive to
fix (a Willys OHC 6, I had no idea such a thing existed!).  It would be
cool to put a Stude V8 in one of these things!

Jeff DeWitt

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transtar60 - 18 Apr 2005 20:13 GMT
That jeep is a military Kaiser Jeep M715 1 1/4 ton truck. Its powered by
the Tornado OHC 230 Tornado engine. T-98 4 spd tranny. Dana 60 front and
Dana 70 rear axle.
Memphis Truck Equipment rebuilds and sells them along with other
military trucks.
> http://www.memphisequipment.com/

They are unusual to find in the woods abandoned but thousands , maybe
ten's of thousands were built for the US and allies. It replaced the
Dodge M-37 series of trucks and was replaced by the Dodge M880 series 1
1/4 ton in the late 70's. Later GM's M1008/M1009 CUCV militarized
pickups/blazers and the Hummer.

> Drove the Champ to work yesterday morning, fortunately things were going
> well so I didn't have to hang around very long, so I went hunting a
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> Jeff DeWitt
 
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