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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / April 2005Original Stude doesn't get recognition at car shows
I recently entered my original 64 Daytona convertible at a local car show. It sat along side restored Chevys and Fords and didn't get honorable anything with the judges preferring the "restored" and mostly modified cars. I know this isn't the concourse, but I don't think I will bother any more with these shows other than to just attend. Don in GA Don: One of our local monthly shows only gave awards to GM, Ford, or Mopar cars. If you had anything else you were out of luck. Dan White > I recently entered my original 64 Daytona convertible at a local car > show. It sat along side restored Chevys and Fords and didn't get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Don in GA Don, I wouldn't sweat it (unless you are a trophy whore <g>)... Most of the local shows, especially those that are run by the local car club are sort of fixed. If they have registration, then a lot of the club members will pick one member and the block will vote for him. If there is a partial (as apposed to impartial) guest judge there, he will usually vote for whoever bought him dinner and liquored him up <lol>. A lot of it has to do with the presentation. Signs, placards, trunk stuff all make a difference. Just showing up and parking your car does not excite a Stude ignorant person into taking a second look. Now 'telling them' about low production numbers and famous owners and some Stude history will get them thinking...and voting. My favorite show/cruise has never brought me any trophies...ever. So what? I have fun there anyways. Take it out again! Jeff "Don Smith" wrote... >I recently entered my original 64 Daytona convertible at a local car > show. It sat along side restored Chevys and Fords and didn't get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Don in GA Jeff has hit this on the head. The local car clubs usually vote for one of their own. Don't worry about the trophy at these meets as they are usually fixed and your chances are slim to none. Jerry has had to deal with this issue while showing his Golden Hawk. He did win a very nice trophy at one of the national AACA meets in Gainsville recently. Cars of all makes there and one of the most enjoyable meets we have been to in recent memory. > Don, I wouldn't sweat it (unless you are a trophy whore <g>)... > Most of the local shows, especially those that are run by the local car club [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > Don in GA I concur. we took a 32000 mile lincon mark II that was a national l.o.c. winner to the local show. this was a 390 plus car. we got nada. alot of guys who really know cars were all over it and we were asked to show at other places. don't give up however.we need to show the flag, now. hemmings has been helping for the last year.I think its up to us to get out there and show. I will get off the soap box now. R > I concur. we took a 32000 mile lincon mark II that was a national > l.o.c. winner to the local show. this was a 390 plus car. we got nada. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > show. > I will get off the soap box now. R if you're all worried about winning trophies you're not going to have much fun. personally I just like having a nice looking car... heck, I took my car for a spin on Saturday and when I stopped at the gas station I had two different people tell me what a great looking car it was (even covered in dust, no door panels, no carpet etc...) so apparently I'm not alone :) nate "if you're all worried about winning trophies you're not going to have much fun." Quote of the week! If your goal is to win trophies, you'll need a couple of wheelbarrows full of money. There is no way around that. As special as you may think your car is, it will generally loose to someone who has spent $100,000 on a nut and bolt restoration or a pro built hot rod.. If you want to have fun, plop two lawn chairs down next to your car and spend half your time talking Studes with spectators and the other half of your time wandering the show and talking about other participants' cars with other owners. You'll make a bunch of new friends, learn a lot, teach a little, and not have to worry about dusting trophys <g>. -Dick- I like how one of the car clubs here in Columbia sets up their car shows. Member cars are placed along the perimeter and none are eligible for awards. Only non-member cars are eligible for awards. It kind of cuts out the good-old-boy network you see at alot of shows. Lee > Don, I wouldn't sweat it (unless you are a trophy whore <g>)... > Most of the local shows, especially those that are run by the local car [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Don in GA Most of the car shows here on Long Island, NY ignore the orphan marques as far as awards go. But I find that the attendee's love them. Today, if I want to attend a show I register as show field only, no judging. This way people see my Studebakers, and I do no have to deal with the awards. Bill '55 President, '59 Hawk '60 Lark '70 Avanti '71 Avanti > I like how one of the car clubs here in Columbia sets up their car shows. > Member cars are placed along the perimeter and none are eligible for awards. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> > >> Don in GA So far, I've only found that I get beat fair and square by the brand X's at multi-make shows. The restorations on your typical 60's GM, Ford and MOPAR are far more detailed than I can do or afford. > Most of the car shows here on Long Island, NY ignore the orphan marques > as far as awards go. But I find that the attendee's love them. Today, [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>> >>>>Don in GA  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Challenger (Green Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 55 Speedster 50 2R 10 truck > Don, I wouldn't sweat it (unless you are a trophy whore <g>)... > Most of the local shows, especially those that are run by the local car > club are sort of fixed. > If they have registration, then a lot of the club members will pick one > member and the block will vote for him. That's what I do like about the spring show run by the local multi marquee car club here. it's usuially well attended by independants as well as folks from other clubs, etc. As is often the case, only the owners of cars entered can vote for their favorites. But perhaps the best thing is that all members of the hosting club are exempt from consideration for awards. Last year Jake the '51 2R pick up took best of class and I'm not affiliated with the local club. But I don't attend shows to win anything. I attend to have fun and for me that means talking with folks about Studebakers, Stude history, etc. Just my $.02, Glenn > Last year Jake the '51 2R pick up took best of class and I'm not > affiliated > with the local club. > OOPS!!!! That should have been Preston the '51 2R, not Jake. It's terrible when you have so many Studes that you mix up their names. LOL Glenn Signaturequondo omni flunkus moritati After getting tired of show politics, I was thinking of pulling off a stunt like this: Get an old R-Series pickup, hopefully a pretty ratty one that still ran. Add side boards with as much real junk as it could hold. Old bikes, bed springs, hot water heaters and the like. Paint SCAP METEL on the door with house paint. Take it to the national meet and enter it in the concours. Oh well...I thought it was funny! LOL!!!! I think it would get a lot of attention...something different usually does. An Oldsmobile buddy of mine took his "barn fresh" '50 Olds station wagon to a GoodGuys meet a couple of years ago with chicken coops (with live chickens) on the roof, the cargo area stuffed with old suitcases and "Pleasanton or Bust" crudely written on the side. It was always surrounded with folks with smiles on their faces and made several magazines. -Dick- Car show awards have always been about the recognizing the condition of the cars on the field. If your car was showing a bit if wear and tear, the judges are going to pass you by. We have several shows in Maryland where they won't allow any car on the field if it's not real nice. I'd prefer that the shows have a 'display only' area so everyone can show off their cars. > I recently entered my original 64 Daytona convertible at a local car > show. It sat along side restored Chevys and Fords and didn't get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Don in GA SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Challenger (Green Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 55 Speedster 50 2R 10 truck Don - the important thing to do is keep showing that Stude! The SDC wasn't formed for the purpose of winning trophies, it was to preserve Studebakers, promote Studebakers, and educate about Studebakers. The one comment I keep hearing year after year at non-Stude events is "Nice to see something besides Ford & Chevys". I don't hear "How many trophies have you gotten?" You've got to think evangelically, and get out there to spread that Studebaker gospel, OK? If you don't - then today's youth will grow up remembering Grandpa's Lexus, not his Daytona ragtop. Funny thing is I never enter these things because I know that a worn original isn't necessarily a crowd pleaser. But don't get me wrong, I love my car, love tooling around town and have had some great comments from the next lane, like a Rolls pulled up beside me and said how much they loved MY car! I have gone to many shows and usually just park it and watch the other cars---I don't like baking in the sun for hours on end anyway. But thanks for the feedback; I feel like my perception wasn't entirely wrong. Don >Don - the important thing to do is keep showing that Stude! The SDC >wasn't formed for the purpose of winning trophies, it was to preserve [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >today's youth will grow up remembering Grandpa's Lexus, not his Daytona >ragtop. > I recently entered my original 64 Daytona convertible at a local car > show. It sat along side restored Chevys and Fords ..... Get together with the other orphan owners you see at the show and go to the promoter. Tell them you want an orphan class!!! It works... we now have orphan class at three of the local shows and the public loves them. Mike Don, The local road hogs around here used to laugh and make jokes when I showed up in a Studebaker. I never got any kind of recognition at any of the shows, that is until Mr. Mach 1 decided he was going to wipe every comer. I passed him doing 130 mph (and still had plenty to go) in my 64 R2 Avanti. Now, they won't even talk to me! Of course, none of them want to race either! So much for the DQ night out. Bo |
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