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How to use Chinese  tools

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John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 00:07 GMT
I'm using air tools 8 hours a day, day after day doing the paint on the
wrapper. I drove up to the Harbor Freight store and bought a $24.95 air
file, a $19.95 D-A and a $19.95 spray gun. (For primer) I figure if I
burn them up, I'll just swap for new ones under the 90 day warranty.

   BTW, brand new Chinese air tools work better that 10 year old US
stuff. <g> I also bought their sand paper, $17.95 roll for D-A paper,
not the $57 for 3M.
JP/Maryland
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My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck
Ron  Butts - 19 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT
A true American consumer<GGGG>

> I'm using air tools 8 hours a day, day after day doing the paint on the
> wrapper. I drove up to the Harbor Freight store and bought a $24.95 air
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> 55 Speedster
> 50 2R 10 truck
tempestan - 19 Apr 2005 05:02 GMT
How many Studebakers are you selling to Chinese clients?  You expected to
take advantage of lower quality (burn them up/90 day warranty). And while
we watch American industry be shipped across the pond.  Walmart must be a
favorite, too.
tempestan
John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 05:28 GMT
Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese
made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label
on my $25 air file would set me back another $75-$100.
  Reminds me of the guys that wanted a Jensen stereo because they were
made in the US 40 years ago and they thought they still were. Jensen
went to Japan, than Taiwan, than Korea, now China.
> How many Studebakers are you selling to Chinese clients?  You expected to
> take advantage of lower quality (burn them up/90 day warranty). And while
> we watch American industry be shipped across the pond.  Walmart must be a
> favorite, too.
> tempestan

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JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

N8N - 19 Apr 2005 13:17 GMT
ISTR that your old air file was a Snap-On?  why don't you hold onto it
and see if you can get a friendly shop to trade it in for you, they
should have a lifetime warranty (I believe that's only if it is Snap-On
though, if it's "blue point" that's also sold by Snap-On but doesn't
have the warranty)

nate

> Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese
> made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label
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> 55 Speedster
> 50 2R 10 truck
John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 14:10 GMT
It's a old Pawn shop Blue Point.

> ISTR that your old air file was a Snap-On?  why don't you hold onto it
> and see if you can get a friendly shop to trade it in for you, they
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>>55 Speedster
>>50 2R 10 truck

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JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 13:19 GMT
Cleco,APT,Dotco
Malcom
> Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese
> made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > favorite, too.
> > tempestan
John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 14:19 GMT
   Correction: Name me a American made air tool for auto body work.  If
I need a jack hammer, I'll look at the APT stuff though. <g>

> Cleco,APT,Dotco
> Malcom

>>Name me a new American made air tool ?

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 18:04 GMT
Well its been a couple of years since I was working in trade, but, Hutchins
made air files and DA's for body work.And as far as I know they are still
made in the US.
http://www.hutchinsmfg.com/contact/alstory.html
Also the same for cleco, aircraft body tools.
Also a company called National Detroit.
http://www.nationaldetroit.com/global/
But if you want loose tolerances on bearings. Non iodized backplates. Liners
and rotors that  are non harden. Aluminum with porosity. And the durability
of a cardboard box, Buy Chinese.
Malcom

>     Correction: Name me a American made air tool for auto body work.  If
> I need a jack hammer, I'll look at the APT stuff though. <g>
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>
> >>Name me a new American made air tool ?
Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 18:14 GMT
Also don't forget about the Viking air tools.
The air file is still made in the US.
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/vikv101.html
Malcom
> Well its been a couple of years since I was working in trade, but, Hutchins
> made air files and DA's for body work.And as far as I know they are still
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> >
> > >>Name me a new American made air tool ?
John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 19:49 GMT
OK you win, they have one mini-air file left in the line made in the
USA. If I needed one, it would be a option. <g>

> Also don't forget about the Viking air tools.
> The air file is still made in the US.
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>>>
>>>>>Name me a new American made air tool ?

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My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Malcom Gillette - 20 Apr 2005 03:29 GMT
Ok I apologize for pushing it. But for those still interested
The American air tool line isn't quite dead yet.
Dynabrade, "The Cadillac of DA sanders".
http://www.dynabrade.com/
Danair, mostly nailers.
http://www.danairinc.com/products.html
Florida Pneumatic, a solid company , some from the US, some from Japan. Cut
off tools are excellent.
http://www.florida-pneumatic.com/fp.htm
Sioux air tools, some made in the US, but not all.
http://www.browntool.com/productselect.asp?ProductID=192
http://www.browntool.com/productselect.asp?ProductID=626
These tools are mostly high end tools, but these tools will
last most people a lifetime.
Remember, any air tool will lasts a long time if you,
Keep it clean, keep the water from the air line out of it.
And oil it every time you use it, and every time you put it up. Almost any
oil will do,mystery oil to ISO 15 light hyd. oil. Air tools aren't picky.
Malcom
> OK you win, they have one mini-air file left in the line made in the
> USA. If I needed one, it would be a option. <g>
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> >>>
> >>>>>Name me a new American made air tool ?
John Poulos - 20 Apr 2005 03:54 GMT
   Hey, I'm learning stuff. i.e. never knew there was a $300 D-A. I
agree it'll probably last a lifetime, but I'm old enough that cheap
tools will too.
> Ok I apologize for pushing it. But for those still interested
> The American air tool line isn't quite dead yet.
> Dynabrade, "The Cadillac of DA sanders".

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck

Dave's Place - 20 Apr 2005 04:13 GMT
>     Hey, I'm learning stuff. i.e. never knew there was a $300 D-A. I
> agree it'll probably last a lifetime, but I'm old enough that cheap
> tools will too.

"Cheap" tools are fine for "hobbyists," if not for folks making a "serious"
living with them.  I have DA sanders, impact wrenches, ratchet wrenches,
chisels, etc. that I bought on the "cheap" that have been around for 20
years or more, still working fine.  OTOH, I'll burn out a cheap buffer in a
matter of weeks.  Anymore, when I buy a buffer, I step up and pay the price.

As I have said before, the only problem I have with air tools is the
requirement that they be oiled daily.  I'll use some of these tools once
every month or two, but come down to the shop every morning before heading
to work, just to oil them.  Twice a month I have to pour the extra oil out
of my tool box drawers, and that's a PITA!

But, I take care of my tools, cheap or not, by golly!  I guess that is why
some of the "cheapies" have been around so long.
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