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How to use Chinese tools
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John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 00:07 GMT I'm using air tools 8 hours a day, day after day doing the paint on the wrapper. I drove up to the Harbor Freight store and bought a $24.95 air file, a $19.95 D-A and a $19.95 spray gun. (For primer) I figure if I burn them up, I'll just swap for new ones under the 90 day warranty.
BTW, brand new Chinese air tools work better that 10 year old US stuff. <g> I also bought their sand paper, $17.95 roll for D-A paper, not the $57 for 3M. JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Challenger (Green Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 55 Speedster 50 2R 10 truck
Ron Butts - 19 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT A true American consumer<GGGG>
> I'm using air tools 8 hours a day, day after day doing the paint on the > wrapper. I drove up to the Harbor Freight store and bought a $24.95 air [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 55 Speedster > 50 2R 10 truck tempestan - 19 Apr 2005 05:02 GMT How many Studebakers are you selling to Chinese clients? You expected to take advantage of lower quality (burn them up/90 day warranty). And while we watch American industry be shipped across the pond. Walmart must be a favorite, too. tempestan
John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 05:28 GMT Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label on my $25 air file would set me back another $75-$100. Reminds me of the guys that wanted a Jensen stereo because they were made in the US 40 years ago and they thought they still were. Jensen went to Japan, than Taiwan, than Korea, now China.
> How many Studebakers are you selling to Chinese clients? You expected to > take advantage of lower quality (burn them up/90 day warranty). And while > we watch American industry be shipped across the pond. Walmart must be a > favorite, too. > tempestan
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N8N - 19 Apr 2005 13:17 GMT ISTR that your old air file was a Snap-On? why don't you hold onto it and see if you can get a friendly shop to trade it in for you, they should have a lifetime warranty (I believe that's only if it is Snap-On though, if it's "blue point" that's also sold by Snap-On but doesn't have the warranty)
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> Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese > made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > 55 Speedster > 50 2R 10 truck John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 14:10 GMT It's a old Pawn shop Blue Point.
> ISTR that your old air file was a Snap-On? why don't you hold onto it > and see if you can get a friendly shop to trade it in for you, they [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>55 Speedster >>50 2R 10 truck
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Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 13:19 GMT Cleco,APT,Dotco Malcom
> Name me a new American made air tool ? I could have bought a Chinese > made air tool with a US manufacturers label. i.e. a Ingersoll-Rand label [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > favorite, too. > > tempestan John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 14:19 GMT Correction: Name me a American made air tool for auto body work. If I need a jack hammer, I'll look at the APT stuff though. <g>
> Cleco,APT,Dotco > Malcom
>>Name me a new American made air tool ?
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Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 18:04 GMT Well its been a couple of years since I was working in trade, but, Hutchins made air files and DA's for body work.And as far as I know they are still made in the US. http://www.hutchinsmfg.com/contact/alstory.html Also the same for cleco, aircraft body tools. Also a company called National Detroit. http://www.nationaldetroit.com/global/ But if you want loose tolerances on bearings. Non iodized backplates. Liners and rotors that are non harden. Aluminum with porosity. And the durability of a cardboard box, Buy Chinese. Malcom
> Correction: Name me a American made air tool for auto body work. If > I need a jack hammer, I'll look at the APT stuff though. <g> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > >>Name me a new American made air tool ? Malcom Gillette - 19 Apr 2005 18:14 GMT Also don't forget about the Viking air tools. The air file is still made in the US. http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/vikv101.html Malcom
> Well its been a couple of years since I was working in trade, but, Hutchins > made air files and DA's for body work.And as far as I know they are still [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > >>Name me a new American made air tool ? John Poulos - 19 Apr 2005 19:49 GMT OK you win, they have one mini-air file left in the line made in the USA. If I needed one, it would be a option. <g>
> Also don't forget about the Viking air tools. > The air file is still made in the US. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> >>>>>Name me a new American made air tool ?
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Malcom Gillette - 20 Apr 2005 03:29 GMT Ok I apologize for pushing it. But for those still interested The American air tool line isn't quite dead yet. Dynabrade, "The Cadillac of DA sanders". http://www.dynabrade.com/ Danair, mostly nailers. http://www.danairinc.com/products.html Florida Pneumatic, a solid company , some from the US, some from Japan. Cut off tools are excellent. http://www.florida-pneumatic.com/fp.htm Sioux air tools, some made in the US, but not all. http://www.browntool.com/productselect.asp?ProductID=192 http://www.browntool.com/productselect.asp?ProductID=626 These tools are mostly high end tools, but these tools will last most people a lifetime. Remember, any air tool will lasts a long time if you, Keep it clean, keep the water from the air line out of it. And oil it every time you use it, and every time you put it up. Almost any oil will do,mystery oil to ISO 15 light hyd. oil. Air tools aren't picky. Malcom
> OK you win, they have one mini-air file left in the line made in the > USA. If I needed one, it would be a option. <g> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >>> > >>>>>Name me a new American made air tool ? John Poulos - 20 Apr 2005 03:54 GMT Hey, I'm learning stuff. i.e. never knew there was a $300 D-A. I agree it'll probably last a lifetime, but I'm old enough that cheap tools will too.
> Ok I apologize for pushing it. But for those still interested > The American air tool line isn't quite dead yet. > Dynabrade, "The Cadillac of DA sanders".
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Dave's Place - 20 Apr 2005 04:13 GMT > Hey, I'm learning stuff. i.e. never knew there was a $300 D-A. I > agree it'll probably last a lifetime, but I'm old enough that cheap > tools will too. "Cheap" tools are fine for "hobbyists," if not for folks making a "serious" living with them. I have DA sanders, impact wrenches, ratchet wrenches, chisels, etc. that I bought on the "cheap" that have been around for 20 years or more, still working fine. OTOH, I'll burn out a cheap buffer in a matter of weeks. Anymore, when I buy a buffer, I step up and pay the price.
As I have said before, the only problem I have with air tools is the requirement that they be oiled daily. I'll use some of these tools once every month or two, but come down to the shop every morning before heading to work, just to oil them. Twice a month I have to pour the extra oil out of my tool box drawers, and that's a PITA!
But, I take care of my tools, cheap or not, by golly! I guess that is why some of the "cheapies" have been around so long. -¿Ö
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