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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / April 2005

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John Poulos - 24 Apr 2005 02:05 GMT
  just watch the Pebble Beach show on  the tube. the winning car had a
12,000 man hour restoration. Run the numbers on that at say $75
hour-$100 before parts and materials. <g>
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Lee Aanderud - 24 Apr 2005 02:07 GMT
But it's all worth it when you put that $18 trophy on the shelf.

Lee

>   just watch the Pebble Beach show on  the tube. the winning car had a
> 12,000 man hour restoration. Run the numbers on that at say $75 hour-$100
> before parts and materials. <g>
Jim D - 24 Apr 2005 02:11 GMT
There is a pretty well known restorer of significant historical hot rods
(like the ones they have started to display at Pebble Beach in the last few
years) who started a restoration of one such car (that was not in really bad
condition) last year.
The restoration "budget" was over $300,000.00

>    just watch the Pebble Beach show on  the tube. the winning car had a
> 12,000 man hour restoration. Run the numbers on that at say $75
> hour-$100 before parts and materials. <g>
Rich - 24 Apr 2005 04:18 GMT
Last year, The LeMay Museum Restoration Shop restored a 1942 Chysler
Windsor "Highlander" 2-door Convertible in which I made all the
interior plastic pieces.  No other example of this model is known to
exist.  Total costs approximated $120K.  Concours quality throughout.
First time I tried this, but very pleased with results.  Think they got
a very good deal from me.  Much of the cosmetics had to be fabricated
as NOS parts were not available.  I think some of these shops charge
whatever they think they can get from an uneducated owner.  Paying more
may help them think they are getting better.

Cheers,
Rich

Richard Morris
Renton, WA
64 Avanti R-1 #5367
90 Avanti 4-door #78
bill glasss - 24 Apr 2005 15:00 GMT
2-door Convertible in which I made all the
> interior plastic pieces.  No other example of this model is known to
> exist.  Total costs approximated $120K.  Concours quality throughout.
> First time I tried this, but very pleased with results.  Think they got
> a very good deal from me.

Did you use stuff like Smooth-On to pour
your castings or did you actually shoot
the parts?

Yeas ago we experiemnted with the Smooth
line and did everyting we wanted to do,
 but you had to work fast.

Billy
Rich - 24 Apr 2005 22:07 GMT
Bill;
I make all sorts of parts from Plastisol (a water based
PolyVinylChloride poured or injected into a tool/cavity and cured with
heat).  I made the Chrylser parts from Ridgisol (same as Plastisol but
higher durometer).  Initially, I cast the parts in the color desired,
including gold flakes and white & brown streaking.  But the results did
not match the original closely enough, so we ended up painting the
surface to match.  The biggest deal was getting the tooling correct to
exactly match the originals.  Don't know if I'll ever use the tools
again - suppose if some Chrylser owner wanted parts, I could make them.
I inject the tools with 60PSI to ensure quality.  Someday I'll try a
reverse epoxy casting to circumvent metal tooling.

Rich

Richard Morris
Renton, WA
64 Avanti R-1 #5367
90 Avanti 4-door #78
Paul Johnson - 24 Apr 2005 02:28 GMT
>   just watch the Pebble Beach show on  the tube. the winning car had a
> 12,000 man hour restoration. Run the numbers on that at say $75 hour-$100
> before parts and materials. <g>
Back in the late 70s we visited White Post Restorations (in White Post, VA).
The owner, Billy Thompson, was telling us of the '37 Mercedes 500SK they
restored for Williard Marriott (yes, the hotel guy).  I could be wrong on
the car- CRS, but it was a big rare roadster.  They started by sending a
crew to Germany to buy it for him.  Then they scrounged for parts there and
shipped the car and parts to White Post.  They undertook the restoration
during which they had to fabricate some 1,000 parts that they couldn't find.
We're also talking 1,000s of hours.  Then they trailered it to Pebble Beach
and showed it for Mr. Marriott.  It didn't take first so they brought it
back to White Post to re-restore to take back the next year.
Paul Johnson
Nate Nagel - 24 Apr 2005 02:31 GMT
>>  just watch the Pebble Beach show on  the tube. the winning car had a
>>12,000 man hour restoration. Run the numbers on that at say $75 hour-$100
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> back to White Post to re-restore to take back the next year.
> Paul Johnson

I don't think you're wrong on the car... but it was probably a SSK
(supercharged) or SSKL (lightweight version.)  would love to have either
but they're a little out of my price range :(

nate

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Paul Johnson - 24 Apr 2005 02:45 GMT
>> ...The owner, Billy Thompson, was telling us of the '37 Mercedes 500SK
>> they restored for Williard Marriott (yes, the hotel guy).

> I don't think you're wrong on the car... but it was probably a SSK
> (supercharged) or SSKL (lightweight version.)  would love to have either
> but they're a little out of my price range :(

It was SSK because I remember Billy saying the K meant Kompressor.  And, it
was too big to be a lightweight version <G>.
Paul Johnson
 
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