Well, I guess my engine was afraid I was thinking about the fuel additive,
because it's refusing to pull in gas now. I believe (hope) that the
problem is just that since I hadn't started it in almost a month, that the
gas just drained out and now it can't get a vacum. Neither pumping the
accelerator nor closing the carb's butterfly did any good. I took the gas
line off the carb and it was bone dry, so I know the problem is that the
gas isn't flowing. There's fuel in the fuel pump (sediment bowl, at
least). Am I now to the point where I have to pour a little gas in the
carb to help get the suction going, or is there another step I should try
first? I've got the original straight-6 with a Cathcart dual carb.
Thanks.
Mike Williams - 19 May 2005 17:52 GMT
First make sure there is gas in the tank. Then when you have the line off
the carb have someone hold the end so that its pumping into a container. If
no gas pumps when the starter is activated, then its likely either none is
in the tank or the pump is not pumping. Of course you may also have a
plugged line. Then you will need to repair or replace the line. The car
should start and run on some gas poured into the carb. Just be careful of
any back fires. By the way when cranking the starter only do so for short
periods of time. You can overheat the starter with prolonged cranking.
> Well, I guess my engine was afraid I was thinking about the fuel additive,
> because it's refusing to pull in gas now. I believe (hope) that the
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> Thanks.
Jerry Forrester - 19 May 2005 19:56 GMT
Bad news John. You have either a stripped or broken timing gear.

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> because it's refusing to pull in gas now. I believe (hope) that the
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> Thanks.
John Poulos - 19 May 2005 22:12 GMT
How did you come to that conclusion ? If he still has compression, it's
not the gear, could be just a bad pump.
> Bad news John. You have either a stripped or broken timing gear.

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Jerry Forrester - 19 May 2005 23:11 GMT
He said he cant get a vacuum. I ass-u-me ed he meant there's no air being
sucked down the carb throat. What other vacuum could he mean?

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> How did you come to that conclusion ? If he still has compression, it's
> not the gear, could be just a bad pump.
>
> > Bad news John. You have either a stripped or broken timing gear.
John Poulos - 19 May 2005 23:54 GMT
I though he meant he could not get suction on the fuel pump.
> He said he cant get a vacuum. I ass-u-me ed he meant there's no air being
> sucked down the carb throat. What other vacuum could he mean?

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John - 25 May 2005 06:02 GMT
Sorry if I wasn't clear. My assumption is just vapor lock somewhere in the
line. The car & pump ran fine up until the last time I started it about a
month ago. Turning over the starter and pumping the accelerator doesn't
seem to pull any additional gas into the fuel pump, which is why I said I
wasn't getting any suction.
"Jerry Forrester" <forr62@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:R48je.1789$lQ3.1212
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> He said he cant get a vacuum. I ass-u-me ed he meant there's no air being
> sucked down the carb throat. What other vacuum could he mean?
Jerry Forrester - 25 May 2005 14:34 GMT
Disconnect both lines (inlet and outlet) from the fuel pump. Hook a fuel
pump pressure gauge to the outlet side of the fuel pump. Spin the engine
over with the starter. Get back with us with your findings.

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> Sorry if I wasn't clear. My assumption is just vapor lock somewhere in the
> line. The car & pump ran fine up until the last time I started it about a
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> > He said he cant get a vacuum. I ass-u-me ed he meant there's no air being
> > sucked down the carb throat. What other vacuum could he mean?
John - 26 May 2005 16:54 GMT
Good news! The problem was just that it was sucking air instead of fuel.
The sedemint bowl was only half full, so we filled it to brim with gas, and
the hit the starter. It finally started spitting fuel, so we hooked
everything back up and started the engine. We let it run for a while to
see if it would start sucking gas from the tank, and it's running fine now.
I was hoping it would be something simple. Is this normal when it sits for
a month without running, or does this mean there's a bad seal in the fuel
pump?
"Jerry Forrester" <forr62@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:u3%ke.14190$lQ3.995
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> Disconnect both lines (inlet and outlet) from the fuel pump. Hook a fuel
> pump pressure gauge to the outlet side of the fuel pump. Spin the engine
> over with the starter. Get back with us with your findings.
N8N - 26 May 2005 16:57 GMT
> Good news! The problem was just that it was sucking air instead of fuel.
> The sedemint bowl was only half full, so we filled it to brim with gas, and
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> a month without running, or does this mean there's a bad seal in the fuel
> pump?
Might want to rebuild the fuel pump if you do not know if it has been
done recently. The old rubber does not stand up as well to modern fuel
as does the Buna-N that is used in most new production rebuild kits.
nate