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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / June 2005Avanti R2 FS Hoax?
Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have had numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite after an initial request for pictures and a bottom line price. I know it sounds fishy, but just can't see where the catch is. We have seen these types of scams before like I will send you a $100000 cheque just put it in your bank and send me $10000. My pessimistic thought is to ignore the whole thing or reply send the pick up agent with the $ when he comes to view the car. Is this type of thing going on in the classic car market. First clue BTW got my name wrong. Cheers Jim Dear Mike, Thank you for getting back at me.Hope you are good today?I am sorry for the delay, my customer was out of town and just returned.I called my customer as soon as he returned and he was much impressed with the condition of your car.I am happy to inform you that we have concluded with our customer.He said that I should inform you that the payment will get to you in a cashier check of ($30,000 usd) which he made out before traveling to Australia today for a business trip. You are required to deduct cost of your Vehicle [ $23,000usd ],when the payment gets to you and refund balance of [ $7,000usd ]to my customer's shipping agent through International Money Gram Transfer , for the shipping agent to be able to offset shipping charges and any other related charges. After payment has reached you and balance sent back to his shipping agent - the shipper will contact the PICKUP AGENT-who will come for the pick up of the vehicle to be shipped to my client.While the title papers and any other documents invole will be sent by you to my client via courier service. THE PICK UP AGENT WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THE EXPENSES AND ANY OTHER COMMISSION CHARGES. PICKUP NOTICE: MY CLIENT INSTRUCTED THAT THE PICKUP AGENT WILL BE COMING TO YOUR AREA OF LOCATION WITH SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO TEST DRIVE THE VEHICLE AND CHECK THE RECENT CONDITION OF THE VEHICLE .AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THE PAYMENT PACKAGE; NOTE: MY CLIENT ADVISED THAT YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEDUCT THE TRANSFER CHARGES FROM THE REMAINING BALANCE YOU ARE TO TRANSFER TO THE SHIPPER VIA INTERNATIONAL MONEY GRAM TRANSFER; Please Confirm this and provide the following details below for check payment to be delivered to you via Royal Registered mail. PAYMENT INFORMATION: 1.LEGAL NAME IN FULL....... 2.ADDRESS.............. 3.DIRECT PHONE NUMBER(S)........... Regards. Henry Brown. Inform them that you will deposit the cheque for collection, and when the funds are available, then and only then will the transaction proceed. > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have had > numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite after an [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Regards. > Henry Brown.  SignatureWTF is Oujdeivß? http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=3762&version=kjv to contact me try Oudeis via softhome.net Of course it's a scam. You'll get a $30,000 cashiers check, you'll deposit it, you'll send him $7,000 back and about 2-4 weeks later, your bank will call and tell you the $30,000 check was bogus and they need their money back immediately. You'll be out $7,000. Most likely they'll never send anyone for the car--face-to-face meetings are too risky for these scumbags. Mark > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have > had numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Regards. > Henry Brown. Worse than that, you just gave them a good e-mail address, and a physical address. Used to be they'd just tag your front gate for others to follow... Now they'll sell your info to fellow thieves. "Mark Anderson" wrote... > Of course it's a scam. You'll get a $30,000 cashiers check, you'll > deposit it, you'll send him $7,000 back and about 2-4 weeks later, your [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> Regards. >> Henry Brown. I am no English teacher, but there are some gramer errors in there that make me think this is not origonating in the U.S. Tony I am no English teacher, but there are some grammar errors in there that make me think this is not originating in the U.S. Tony CAN YOU SPELL RIP OFF? > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have had Jim, If, and I say that reluctantly, the fella is on the up and up, then you need to tell him that as soon as the funds arrive and clear your bank the deal will be completed. Actually, I'd have the money wired to the nearest Western Union, as opposed to even giving out a PO Box number. Under no circumstances give your home address and only a cell phone number. If it is a hoax, you certainly don't want uninvited guests showing up when your not home. Otherwise, ignore the whole thing and don't even respond. Scams such as these are abundant and getting worse every minute. Bo BOGUS!!!! If you tell him that you wont take his bad paper for $30,000, he,ll probably offer to send you cash in the form of 10,000 $3 bills. HaHaHa. Jim Fowler > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have had > numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite after an [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Regards. > Henry Brown. No doubt whatsoever that this is a scam. > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have > had numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Regards. > Henry Brown. TOTAL SCAM. What happens is this prick sends you a counterfeit check, which you deposit or cash at your bank. Then you send him $7,000.00. A few days later your bank discovers the check is fraudulent and you are out $7,000.00! Doug > Have had my 63 Avanti R2 4sp listed in Hemmings for the past month. Have > had numerous inquiries and received this follow up email the other nite [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Regards. > Henry Brown. This is a typical scam that originates in Nigeria, and the Bahamas. Bill > TOTAL SCAM. > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Regards. > > Henry Brown. This type of scam offer comes with greater frequency than if you had run an ebay auction. When they try this on ebay they quickly get tossed off by the ebay security people. People I know who list cars (and reasonably expensive parts) in Hemmings and the Autotrader online, on the Craigslists sites, are getting INNUDATED with these things. As I have said before, they are using automated software to generate these bogus offers, so the first email they send will often mention that they are interested in "your item", or " what you have offered for sale", or something along those lines. Just so you aware, some of them now even offer to send US Postal Money Orders (which are of course, fake). It would be a HUGE risk for anyone in the US to send a phony Postal M.O., but they are located outside the US. Some people like to screw around with them, but as someone else posted, that just lets them know that there is someone who will answer their emails, and they probably them sell that email address to other scammers as a good potential "mark". |
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