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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2005Roger Ward Avanti
I'm trying to help David Ward (Rogers son) come up with a fair market value for his dads Avanti. (recently on ebay) I can judge the value of the car, but what does the Indy history add, and who would be most interested ? I'd like any input I can get before I call him back.  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 54 Starlight Maybe David Letterman?? He's into Indy car racing and got's all that TV money.<G> > I'm trying to help David Ward (Rogers son) come up with a fair market > value for his dads Avanti. (recently on ebay) I can judge the value of > the car, but what does the Indy history add, and who would be most > interested ? I'd like any input I can get before I call him back. Perhaps someone at the Indy 500 museum? That's where it came from. > Perhaps someone at the Indy 500 museum? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 54 Starlight I have on my lark wagon pictures of Churchill with the original owners, telegrams on the purchase, copy of Studebaker news on the car, title copies as well as california DMV records on every owner and and the license frame, plaque mounted on the glove box door and the envelope that Studebaker sent out in 1959 with the press releases on the car as well as the watch the Churchill gave Mrs Herzog. Now taking into account the normally a 59 2 door wagon would be worth X amount of dollars, when I put it to the NG everyone seemed to think it would add 500.00 to the value at the time. I think when I am finished with the car that is would really add at least 500 if not more to the car. What docs do you have on the Avanti? Because Avanti's are low production cars vs the lark I would think it should add 2K to the value, depending on how well it is documented. Bob Miles Tucson AZ I've contacted George Krim who looked up that factory build sheet, I have the Studebaker ad with the cars presentation to Roger. Rogers son will raid the family photo album for more pix. BTW, the build sheet has "Hold for Roger Ward written in it." He'll need well more than a 2K premium since he's paid for a very expensive restoration. > I have on my lark wagon pictures of Churchill with the original owners, > telegrams on the purchase, copy of Studebaker news on the car, title [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Bob Miles > Tucson AZ SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 54 Starlight Is this the car that was on Ebay that Ward did not want? The R2? No, it is the R1 he wanted and got. > Is this the car that was on Ebay that Ward did not want? The R2? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 61 Hawk 54 Starlight Do you have the link from when it was on EBAY? How much does he want? I am interested. > Do you have the link from when it was on EBAY? How much does he want? > I am interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Avanti-Immaculate-1963-Studebaker-Avan ti-1962-Indy-Pace-Car_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6466QQitemZ456409992 Best offer so far is 25K. SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 61 Hawk 54 Starlight John, Came up as an invalid item, but thats ok, I can't afford it anyway! If Rogers son comes up with the original to match the ad, or another pic with Sherwood give the keys to Roger I am going out on a limb here but say 5K prem to own a piece of history like that. Bob Miles Tucson AZ Why would the car that Rodger did not take be worth much ? The one his son has is the car Studebaker built and shipped to Rodger for winning at Indy. The car in the picture was probably a early factory prototype since that's all they had that early. He probably would not have received that very car even he wanted it. He ordered the car he wanted, but it was white with the orange interior just like in the pix, but he wanted AC. > John, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Bob Miles > Tucson AZ SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 61 Hawk 54 Starlight So the car in the ad is not the car that Roger got I take? Am I missing part of the story somewhere? Bob Miles Tucson AZ The Indy 500 is the end of May, the ad ran shortly after that, the first production car was built in June, his car was built in July, delivered in Aug. The ad probably was a early prototype, maybe a erlier car.(his was R 1034) The text of the ad says: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are proud that Roger Ward is the first Studebaker Avanti owner, for this is a car built not only for knowledgeable drivers, but for all admirers of exceptional automobiles. As such, every Avanti will be carefully inspected through every phase of manufacture and road tested before shipment from the factory. Not only is Avanti performance outstanding (0-60 in 6.7 seconds), but its handling characteristics are outstanding too. Steering is a little over three turns lock to lock, and the entire car is taut and precise. It's deceleration is as dramatic as its acceleration. Caliper-type discs up front and finned Bendix drums at the rear provide a superb braking system. And the Avanti seats four comfortably in an elegant tastefully appointed interior. Bolstered bucket seats, anatomically designed, help make long-distance cruising effortless. > So the car in the ad is not the car that Roger got I take? Am I > missing part of the story somewhere? > > Bob Miles > Tucson AZ SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 61 Hawk 54 Starlight My bad, there is a Avanti that 'represented' this car, but not the real deal. > That's where it came from. > >> Perhaps someone at the Indy 500 museum? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 T cab truck 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 54 Starlight |
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