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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2005

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warpheads@sbcglobal.net - 07 Aug 2005 04:17 GMT
  I could be wrong; but I thought Oswald was: 1.) In the USMC, 2.)
flunked out of his marksmanship training and had to be re-trained and
barely passed.
   What I do know is that in Dallas in November; having lived there,
the trees in front of the School Book Depository are in full bloom in
November, and having qualifying as an expert shot in Army Basic
Traininig in 1970, I know I could never hit a damn thing I couldn't see
through the follage much less a moving target; not to mention using an
inferior small caliber carbine like Oswald had (I beleive it was in the
5.5 mm range of calibers and known for not being very accurate.).  I'm
sure I will probably get flamed all to hell for this; as you can't have
civil conversation on the net anymore; but even the FBI couldn't get
off 5 shots in the same time Oswald was said to under controled
circumstances.  Just my 2 cents worth.
Sals54 - 07 Aug 2005 15:21 GMT
Why would you want to talk about Oswald in the Studebaker newsgroup,
anyway????? Besides, everyone knows that LBJ had Kennedy killed.
John Poulos - 07 Aug 2005 15:31 GMT
No, it was Bill Clinton that did the deed. <g>

> Why would you want to talk about Oswald in the Studebaker newsgroup,
> anyway????? Besides, everyone knows that LBJ had Kennedy killed.

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Pat Drnec - 07 Aug 2005 15:44 GMT
and Hillary put him up to it. She was having an affair with Jackie and
was afraid it would get out.

> No, it was Bill Clinton that did the deed. <g>
>
>> Why would you want to talk about Oswald in the Studebaker newsgroup,
>> anyway????? Besides, everyone knows that LBJ had Kennedy killed.

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John Poulos - 07 Aug 2005 16:00 GMT
  It was Jane Fonda that tipped Hillary off about the affair and Bill
got a lot of help from the 'PT Boat veterans for truth'.
> and Hillary put him up to it. She was having an affair with Jackie and
> was afraid it would get out.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> Why would you want to talk about Oswald in the Studebaker newsgroup,
>>> anyway????? Besides, everyone knows that LBJ had Kennedy killed.

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markansas859 - 07 Aug 2005 16:56 GMT
>   It was Jane Fonda that tipped Hillary off about the affair and Bill got
> a lot of help from the 'PT Boat veterans for truth'.
>> and Hillary put him up to it. She was having an affair with Jackie and
>> was afraid it would get out.

well, the sad truth is, a former neighbor of mine was involved in the
kennedy assassination investigation.

Oswald moved from New Orleans to Dallas.

He took the Greyhound Bus.

My neighbor was the driver of the bus from Alexandria, LA to Dallas.

he has a couple pages of testimony in the Warren Report.
Lee Aanderud - 07 Aug 2005 16:57 GMT
I'm glad to see you two are finally seeing the light...

Lee

>   It was Jane Fonda that tipped Hillary off about the affair and Bill got
> a lot of help from the 'PT Boat veterans for truth'.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>> Why would you want to talk about Oswald in the Studebaker newsgroup,
>>>> anyway????? Besides, everyone knows that LBJ had Kennedy killed.
Grumpy AuContraire - 07 Aug 2005 17:40 GMT
Heh...  I remember when I worked on Kwajalein and was a member of
Toastmaster, one of the drills was to begin a story than pass it on to
another member, then another etc.

With that in mind, may I add the following:

It was a dark and stormy night when the young John Kerry emerged from
the small tent following an intense discussion with activist Jane Fonda
regarding the Cuban Missile crisis of 1963.  Sweating profusely despite
the cold temperature and pounding rain on this mid April evening in
1963, discussion may not have been the only activity undertaken .

The following day, the weather being clear and crisp, John skipped his
normal morning shave and hurriedly packed his bag and slipped out of the campsite....

JT

>    It was Jane Fonda that tipped Hillary off about the affair and Bill
> got a lot of help from the 'PT Boat veterans for truth'.
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> 61 Hawk
> 54 Starlight
Grumpy AuContraire - 07 Aug 2005 17:21 GMT
ROFLMAQ!

JT

> and Hillary put him up to it. She was having an affair with Jackie and
> was afraid it would get out.
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> http://homepage.mac.com/pdrnec/PhotoAlbum81.html
jimandkathiekrise - 07 Aug 2005 15:26 GMT
It was a 6.5 mm Italian carcano. Said to be very good, but not excellent. I
shoot a 6.5 Swede, and it is in the excellant category. 6.5 makes it a 268
caliber, just smaller than our 270. Quite lethal out to 1000 yards.

And remember, the foilage has grown quite a bit since then.

And getting 5 rounds off in that time, is simply amazing, to the point of
being unbelievable.

Jim in tulsa
>   I could be wrong; but I thought Oswald was: 1.) In the USMC, 2.)
> flunked out of his marksmanship training and had to be re-trained and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> off 5 shots in the same time Oswald was said to under controled
> circumstances.  Just my 2 cents worth.
Grumpy AuContraire - 07 Aug 2005 17:24 GMT
There are way too many unanxwered questions when combined with the fact
that LBJ was one of the biggest crooks in Texas...

JT

> It was a 6.5 mm Italian carcano. Said to be very good, but not excellent. I
> shoot a 6.5 Swede, and it is in the excellant category. 6.5 makes it a 268
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > off 5 shots in the same time Oswald was said to under controled
> > circumstances.  Just my 2 cents worth.
Richard Lawler - 07 Aug 2005 18:16 GMT
Speaking as some one that lived in Texas for many years. LBJ was only
an average sized crook in Texas. Of course an average sized crook in
Texas is still one of the largest crooks in the USA because after all
everything is bigger in Texas. Xcept gas prices of course and those
are considerably larger in Oregon.<G>

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Jeff DeWitt - 07 Aug 2005 19:08 GMT
I always just accepted the Oswald story, but a few years ago I was
involved in a mock trial of Oswald and got put on the defense side.

Oswald was a strange character for sure, and he may well have done it,
but there is a lot that we don't know, and there are a lot of questions
that never really did get answered.

Was LBJ behind it, personally I doubt it, but I wouldn't put it past
him, he was a bigger crook than either Nixon or Clinton.

Jeff DeWitt

> There are way too many unanxwered questions when combined with the fact
> that LBJ was one of the biggest crooks in Texas...
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>>>off 5 shots in the same time Oswald was said to under controled
>>>circumstances.  Just my 2 cents worth.
Grumpy AuContraire - 08 Aug 2005 02:13 GMT
Yep, LBJ's crookedness is legend around central Texas. Never ran across
any of the locals that would say otherwise...

JT

> I always just accepted the Oswald story, but a few years ago I was
> involved in a mock trial of Oswald and got put on the defense side.
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> >>>off 5 shots in the same time Oswald was said to under controled
> >>>circumstances.  Just my 2 cents worth.
Dwain G. - 07 Aug 2005 22:49 GMT
I just searched for the phrase "I will not take orders from above", and
found this NG's discussion of this topic from November of 2003. A copy of my
own post:

The most interesting theory I ever heard, from a rabid sign painter I knew,
was that JFK's statement "I will not take orders from above" got a hit put
out on him from the Pope!
 
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