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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2005

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R3 Header Clearance Issue

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Ron  Butts - 27 Aug 2005 23:18 GMT
Has anyone put a V8 with R3 cast iron headers in a 59 Lark and if you did,
how did you resolve the major and I emphasize major clearance problems with
header to steering box (Ross box)?  Background before questions come in:
engine mounts are in the correct holes for left hand drive, thick front
motor mounts are used, new rear mount in correct holes in cross member.
Ron
Steve Hudson - 28 Aug 2005 00:18 GMT
I'm not sure about the Lark, but I know the headers absolutely would not
fit on my '53 with the stock box. Switching to the "SL" (Ross?) box from
a later Hawk fixed the problem. Maybe that could point you to a similar
solution with your Lark?

S2DSteve
A.J. - 28 Aug 2005 00:35 GMT
> Has anyone put a V8 with R3 cast iron headers in a 59 Lark and if you
> did, how did you resolve the major and I emphasize major clearance
> problems with header to steering box (Ross box)?  Background before
> questions come in: engine mounts are in the correct holes for left
> hand drive, thick front motor mounts are used, new rear mount in
> correct holes in cross member. Ron

The Super Larks had a offset pitman arm and had a Z'ed link from the  
pitman arm to the pillow block arm on the center of the front crossmember.
Ron  Butts - 28 Aug 2005 01:33 GMT
The clearance problems are caused by the pitman arm shaft's boss on the box
and if I could clear it the next issue would be the top of the pitman arm.
I'm talking about raising the engine 3/4" to 1" inch for everything to
clear.  Ain't gonna do that.  Don't want to deal with getting pinion angle
back in spec and related issues.

>> Has anyone put a V8 with R3 cast iron headers in a 59 Lark and if you
>> did, how did you resolve the major and I emphasize major clearance
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> The Super Larks had a offset pitman arm and had a Z'ed link from the
> pitman arm to the pillow block arm on the center of the front crossmember.
A.J. - 28 Aug 2005 02:01 GMT
> The clearance problems are caused by the pitman arm shaft's boss on
> the box and if I could clear it the next issue would be the top of the
> pitman arm. I'm talking about raising the engine 3/4" to 1" inch for
> everything to clear.  Ain't gonna do that.  Don't want to deal with
> getting pinion angle back in spec and related issues.

Raising the engine 3/4 " to a 1" is not going to change the angle on the
back of the trans more than 1/4 to 1/2 a degree I would be more worried
about clearance of the hood but on a Lark you have all kinds of room. The
old mounts have probibly compressed more than a 1/4" in their life. And
when I was looking at my car I could see a slight difference in the height
of shaft to the 3 mounting holes on the frame but was just thinking that
was because one was power and the other wasn't.
Ron  Butts - 28 Aug 2005 02:19 GMT
New front and rear mounts.

>> The clearance problems are caused by the pitman arm shaft's boss on
>> the box and if I could clear it the next issue would be the top of the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> of shaft to the 3 mounting holes on the frame but was just thinking that
> was because one was power and the other wasn't.
 
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