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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2005Travel in the South and Southeast
I spend almost all my time traveling around the southeast parts of this country... Got gas in Tallahassee Tuesday am just fine. Got gas in Athens, Ga Wednesday just fine. I saw lines at the pumps in Savannah today, and 80 miles south all the gas stations were just waiting for customers. Got gas in Kingsland, Ga an hour ago just fine. I draw a conclusion that the areas where TV and radio coverage is saturated, the public (sheep) react as they are told. Those that choose to stay home....stay home! The roads are too crowded anyways. TV nteworks/stations kill me. First they go on and on and on (and on)about the "effects" Katrina will have on the price of gas.(All last week before it hit). Then they say dont go out and buy gas now(on Sunday just before it hit). Buying gas now will just make the problem worse. Well they should make up their minds. I did. Screw them. Well Sunday I went in to town and filled up my Jeep.(2.57 gal) Should have filled up every vehicle with a license plate(and maybe some with out.) > I spend almost all my time traveling around the southeast parts of this > country... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Those that choose to stay home....stay home! > The roads are too crowded anyways. Went to the store today (Meijr...kind of a regional WalMart) and picked up a few items. With my register reciept, was a coupon for their gas station. Normally, you get a $.03 off coupon for your next gas purchase but, occasionally, you get a $.50/gallon off coupon. I guess it was my turn to hit the lottery today <G> Topped off Debbie's car and filled the can for the mower. With discount, it was still $2.69 per...... >TV nteworks/stations kill me. First they go on and on and on (and >on)about the "effects" [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >> The roads are too crowded anyways. Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62 Adding the Minnesota side...we are South and Southeast of many Canadian provinces,after all....$2.59 Monday,$2.79 Tuesday,$2.99 Wednesday. Stopped at the local FLAPS and bought locking gas caps for all vehicles sitting outside. Bob40 > Went to the store today (Meijr...kind of a regional WalMart) and > picked up a few items. With my register reciept, was a coupon for [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Lee DeLaBarre > Daytona62 Paid 2.78 at the airbase in Omaha wed. morning-funny thing the were out of ethenol at all the pumps.To listen to the media,we are a powerhouse for this product.Reports of 3.50 gas around the area.I think the scewing is going to get alot worse. Just filled up 2.98 Reg. Here in Palm Harbor and waited in line. Not long but at 2.98 at Hess for Reg it shouldn't be. Rick > I spend almost all my time traveling around the southeast parts of this > country... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Those that choose to stay home....stay home! > The roads are too crowded anyways. I filled up the Lark at $2.99, but I got in line behind some idiot who was checking all the fluids in his tired looking Muskrat, after he got done THEN he started pumping gas. Guy at the next pump was finishing up, I got behind him, filled up, and drove off and that idiot was still putting gas in his car... after he figured out how to work the pump. Jeff DeWitt > Just filled up 2.98 Reg. Here in Palm Harbor and waited in line. > Not long but at 2.98 at Hess for Reg it shouldn't be. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >>The roads are too crowded anyways. I see a trend here... Idiot mainstream journalists sensationalize and sheeple react. Then there is the problem of breeding stupid people. JT > I filled up the Lark at $2.99, but I got in line behind some idiot who > was checking all the fluids in his tired looking Muskrat, after he got [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >>Those that choose to stay home....stay home! > >>The roads are too crowded anyways. A lot of the drowned are Darwined out,they were TOLD to leave.Should help the gene pool. Don't get me wrong,I know there is some terrible human suffering going on,and some had little choice,but those that just refused to leave and now have National Gaurdsman risking their lives to save them. >I see a trend here... Idiot mainstream journalists sensationalize and > sheeple react. Then there is the problem of breeding stupid people. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >>Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >> >>The roads are too crowded anyways. If you have money, you load up SUV and move into a $100 a night motel room. Most of those that stayed did not have that option, those that did and stayed made a piss poor choice. Not sure if they deserve to die for that choice though. (bleeding heart liberal comment <g>) > A lot of the drowned are Darwined out,they were TOLD to leave.Should help > the gene pool. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >>>>>Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >>>>>The roads are too crowded anyways.  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 64 Challenger (Plain Wrapper ?) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk (on ebay) 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 54 Starlight(sold) 53 Starlight You forgot that the city of New Orleans and state of Louisiana were offering free transportation out of the city for anyone regardless of income, race, sex, etc... Now... rescue boats that go into neighborhoods are being shot at. Busses to move people to Houston are being rushed to the point where the drivers fearing for their safety are driving off empty. Helicopter are being shot at or try to land on helicopter pads with dozens of people standing on them (some with guns). Hospitals and nursing homes are being looted. The stupid will just have to fall into the same cesspool those who are stealing just to steal... God works in mysterious ways sometimes. It's not the "rich" leaving the "poor" behind... everyone had an opportunity to get out... some left, some didn't. (cruel, realist comment) It'll be interesting in a few weeks, how many of these "poor" people will look for work during the clean-up and how many will be expecting a hand-out from the Red Cross and the government. Like I heard yesterday, on the bright side... this should turn into an economic boom for New Orleans and the other destroyed areas... demolition, clean-up, construction, etc... I was listening to an interview with a lady from North Carolina (I think) this morning on the John Boy & Billy Show who said that when it comes back to rebuilding New Orleans... that it would be idiotic to allow anyone to rebuild in their original location. The city would still be below sea level, the levies were built to withstand a Catagory 3 hurricane, and until they're built to withstand a Catagory 5 nothing should be allowed to rebuild in the area. Lee > If you have money, you load up SUV and move into a $100 a night motel > room. Most of those that stayed did not have that option, those that did > and stayed made a piss poor choice. Not sure if they deserve to die for > that choice though. (bleeding heart liberal comment <g>) "I was listening to an interview with a lady from North Carolina (I think) this morning on the John Boy & Billy Show who said that when it comes back to rebuilding New Orleans... that it would be idiotic to allow anyone to rebuild in their original location. The city would still be below sea level, the levies were built to withstand a Catagory 3 hurricane, and until they're built to withstand a Catagory 5 nothing should be allowed to rebuild in the area." This is a good point, Lee. Once the rebuilding phase kicks in, there should be some serious evaluation done. Seems kind of silly to me to construct a huge network of levees and dikes to hold back the sea from a city that has been pretty much destroyed. I'd vote for restoring the old historical part of the city, the French Quarter, etc., and maintain it as a tourist destination. Then pick a site inland somewhere, on higher ground, for a new, workaday New Orleans. Gord Richmond I bet something like that is exactly what is going to happen. The more valuable parts of the city, the French Quarter and the central business district where all the towers and the federal courthouse are, will be repaired and protected. New New Orleans will be built nearby and on higher ground. Jeff DeWitt > "I was listening to an interview with a lady from North Carolina (I > think) this morning on the John Boy & Billy Show who said that when [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Gord Richmond The only way to get NO to higher ground is to build it(the higher ground). Maybe some states would'nt mind donating several mountain tops to fill in.(each). One of the talking heads, maybe the on WxC mentioned that Lake Ponchetrane is actually an inland bay of the Gulf of Mexico. > I bet something like that is exactly what is going to happen. The more > valuable parts of the city, the French Quarter and the central business [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> Gord Richmond We have something similar up here. Called the Ha,prons, where all the extremely wealthy live during the sumer or rent out their homes for $10,000 a week to the wealthy. Every year or two one of these storms comes along and destroys all these homes. Then the insurance companies com in anf hand out checks for anywher between $7 million to $20 million to replae the homes and contents at current replacement costs. There should be legisation, you build on the beach, or in what would be the path of destruction, you get a choice, sign angreement htat you will not rebuild, and get 25%....rebuild you pay for the next home. > We have something similar up here. Called the Ha,prons, where all the > extremely wealthy live during the sumer or rent out their homes for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the path of destruction, you get a choice, sign angreement htat you will > not rebuild, and get 25%....rebuild you pay for the next home. I wonder if their insurance policies are what they are in other flood prone areas... areas that have deductibles that are 10-25% of the assessed value. You have a million dollar home on the beach that gets wiped out... fork over $250,000 out of pocket and we'll help you with the rest. I know after the Red River flooded in Grand Forks, ND... the federal government would not allow anything to be rebuilt within city blocks of the river. Huge high-dollar homes that got flooded were torn down with no chance to be repaired or rebuilt. Lee And a great majority of homes (nationwide) have no flood insurance, nor do they know that flood damage is not part of their home insurance policy. Jeff "Lee Aanderud" wrote... > I wonder if their insurance policies are what they are in other flood > prone areas... areas that have deductibles that are 10-25% of the assessed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the river. Huge high-dollar homes that got flooded were torn down with no > chance to be repaired or rebuilt. > "bondobilly" wrote... >> We have something similar up here. Called the Ha,prons, where all the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> the path of destruction, you get a choice, sign agreement that you will >> not rebuild, and get 25%....rebuild you pay for the next home. On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:13:30 -0400, you wrote: >And a great majority of homes (nationwide) have no flood insurance, >nor do they know that flood damage is not part of their home insurance >policy. >Jeff price it.. my homeowners is 650.. IF I were to get flood insurance and i am NOT in a flood area, the flood part would be 1500..I checked IF I WERE in a flood plain, either 100 or 500 year.. the premium jumps to 3500 a year-this on a 60 k valuation.. --Shiva-- Exactly my point. People here were/are spewing about preparation, or the lack of it. It is one thing to see 1.2 million people displaced. It is another to see X% that lost everything. What percentage of those were homeowners, I don't know. Ask that X% of homeowners if 'price it' means crap to them today. Especially if you live below sea level a quarter mile from the sea....or on a river bank...or a lakeside. Who cares about the premium of insurance? Oh, well, we all should... But we elected politicians who have been swayed by the special interest groups (Insurance in this instance) who got the rules changed to allow them to manipulate insurance coverage to help their own quarterly returns and dividends. Ask me, I know. I live in one of those areas that the insurance companies walked away from and were allowed to sell their financial packages instead. Putting numbers to this problem is no excuse for not preparing for a disaster. And, as recent events show, waiting for the government to care for you is just as much folly. A majority of the citizens who stayed behind (including the stupid and the stubborn) affected by this most recent tragedy were bought and paid for recipients of our current vote getting payola machine. Vote for me and I'll set you up on program X, Y, and Z, and you'll be taken care of.... Yep, they were taken care of all right. "--Shiva--" wrote... > On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:13:30 -0400, you wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > --Shiva-- Damned... That's the best rant from you ever! And, I agree 100%.. JT > Exactly my point. > People here were/are spewing about preparation, or the lack of it. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > --Shiva-- Bill, I have no problem with folks who want to build homes in high-risk areas, as long as they pay the true cost of insurance. Taxpayers shouldn't bail them out if the inevitable happens. Gord Richmond I heard one of the ladies stuck at the Superdome ask a very good question that I'd also wondered about. New Orleans is a pretty poor city and of course many of it's residents don't have cars. The city issued a mandatory evacuation order before the storm hit, knowing full well that many of it's citizens had no way to get out. Why didn't they bring in buses to take those people out? How can you tell people they have to leave knowing that many of them CAN'T? Jeff DeWitt > If you have money, you load up SUV and move into a $100 a night motel > room. Most of those that stayed did not have that option, those that did [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>>>> Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >>>>>> The roads are too crowded anyways. The mayor issued a mandatory evacuation order on the 27th. link here http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=1&tabid=43 Here is a photo are hundreds of unused, flooded buses. Read again the last paragraph of the Mayors orders.... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015 Here is a recent audio interview by the Mayor.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9173940/site/newsweek/ Freddy > If you have money, you load up SUV and move into a $100 a night motel > room. Most of those that stayed did not have that option, those that did > and stayed made a piss poor choice. Not sure if they deserve to die for > that choice though. (bleeding heart liberal comment <g>) >A lot of the drowned are Darwined out,they were TOLD to leave.Should help >the gene pool. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>I see a trend here... Idiot mainstream journalists sensationalize and >> sheeple react. Then there is the problem of breeding stupid people. This subject is being widely discussed on many newsgroups. Below is a post from rec.travel.cruises:, post subject was "I'm Getting Tired of These Ungrateful Hurricane Victims". Needless to say, he drew many flaming responses and many in support. Paul Johnson "All those losers whining about "where's the government?", "We got nothing" "they leaving us here to die" and such are starting to really piss me off. Our society has created a whole population of people who rely on the government for all needs- housing, food, medical care. That are unable to fend for themselves in any way hurricane or not. Now they must really be suffering, almost like a domestic pet that suddenly finds itself living in the wild. First of all you live in an area BELOW sea level-not smart. Then its an area that is subject to hurricanes and storms. Then word of an impending hurricane comes out and you do not stock up and prepare. Why? Because you have no responsibility for your own life. The gov't has always taken care of you even when you refused to stay in school and get a job. They support you after popping out numerous out-of-wedlock babies. They take care of you in prison when you refuse to follow society's rules. Adversity is when the American Spirit rises to the top. Unfortunately you still choose to take by looting and causing further damage to your countrymen. I just had to rant." And the panic is absurd! I watched from Tuesday AM, gas at on station start in the morning at $2.54, and hardly any cars. Lunch was $2.59, no one in the place Evening, $2.79, several cars Wed AM $2.89, and it was busy. Wed lunch, $2.99, and cars were lined up in the streets. Wed PM, $3.09, and it looked like a riot. Reports of places gouging at $5 a gallon, there are stations that are empty, mostly because of panic buying. Last night my neighbor went out in her big-assed SUV looking for gas because she 'only' had 3/4 of a tank...and drove 20 miles trying to find a station with gas...wonder how much she burned in that panic? To top it all, the grocery stores were supposed to be selling out of bread and milk, just like someone said it might snow.... Sheeple...can't live with them, can't get away from 'em. >I spend almost all my time traveling around the southeast parts of this >country... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Those that choose to stay home....stay home! >The roads are too crowded anyways. Ron/Champ 6 1963 8E5 Champ (Champ 6) 1962 Lark Daytona Convertible On eBay now...(Boomerang) 1995 VW Passat (Vanilla..yuk) 1994 Volvo 850 (Tilley) 1973 Volvo 1800 ES (Hyacinth Bucket) Took a trip out to my Armorflex supplier (about 45 miles) passed the "cheap-gas" exit @ 11:00 am and the price was $2.48/gal. (Normal price this week around my house was $2.55-$2.59). After picking up my $300 box of insulation,, stopping at an antique mall, and having lunch- I came back by the exit @ 3:30 pm and gas was $2.99. Some of the other stations along the route were $3.09+ for regular. I saw a couple over $3.25/gal....... Ray > And the panic is absurd! > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > 1994 Volvo 850 (Tilley) > 1973 Volvo 1800 ES (Hyacinth Bucket) |
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