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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2005

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homer - 01 Sep 2005 03:29 GMT
hello
im rebuilding a 170 flathead from my lark.i need to know if .002 -
.003" is too loose for the lifters.i measured the lifter bores and they
are .625 - .6255. the lifters are .622 - .623. since the book doesnt
really say (i couldnt find it if its in there)i figured that i could
get an answer here.
thanks in advance
homer
Dwain G. - 01 Sep 2005 07:06 GMT
Odd. The block is supposed to wear, not the lifters. The wear limit is
around .0035", which seems like too much. Ask a vendor or someone to measure
a new lifter to determine if you should go to .001" oversize lifters.
homer - 02 Sep 2005 05:16 GMT
> Odd. The block is supposed to wear, not the lifters. The wear limit is
> around .0035", which seems like too much. Ask a vendor or someone to measure
> a new lifter to determine if you should go to .001" oversize lifters.

dwain
thanks for the reply.that is odd considering that the block is supposed
to wear. the block was measured by myself and a machinist friend of
mine and we both came up with the same thing.we both used snap gages
and a micrometer so i tend to think the lifter bore size is correct. i
know nothing about the engine except it was blown up a long time ago
and sat for at least 10 - 15 years. i have the car and the odometer
says 53,663 possibly rolled over once. but i did notice the block has a
bunch of keystone symbols with numbers stamped in the symbols. and the
block is stamped with a serial number for 1959 which is what year the
car is. so its anybodys guess as to what has been to the engine in all
these years.
thanks again
homer
Dwain G. - 02 Sep 2005 06:54 GMT
Ah yes! The keystone! Sometimes described as an arrow head with blunt tip.
Not to be confused with the cloverleaf stamp on HD truck engines.
You have a factory replacement engine, but no one seems to know for sure why
the cloverleaf is on some of these engines. Most of them have a totally
blank number pad.
Original engine numbers were supposed to be stamped into the new engine by
the installing dealer. Most weren't!
Nate Nagel - 02 Sep 2005 10:25 GMT
> Ah yes! The keystone! Sometimes described as an arrow head with blunt tip.
> Not to be confused with the cloverleaf stamp on HD truck engines.
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> Original engine numbers were supposed to be stamped into the new engine by
> the installing dealer. Most weren't!

The engine in my car actually has a keystone stamped under where the oil
filler block-off plate screws on.  Would have never seen it had I not
gone to install my shiny finned aluminum stuff.

nate

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homer - 03 Sep 2005 02:45 GMT
dwain
i emailed cathcart's and they said .624" for standard size lifters. so
i guess i can go with standard size lifters.
thank you
homer
Dwain G. - 03 Sep 2005 05:29 GMT
That is very interesting. Before this I would have thought that the lifters
could be expected to show very little wear.
R1Lark - 03 Sep 2005 20:21 GMT
Dwain,

I always measure the OD of the regound lifters I get. I have gotten a
handfull over the years that were significantly worn.

Paul
Joe Baty - 02 Sep 2005 11:25 GMT
Yes it's the block that 'supposed to wear' but I've seen worn lifters just
as much as I've seen a worn block.  I have some NOS lifters around here
someone, I could 'mike' them if that would help.

Joe

> hello
> im rebuilding a 170 flathead from my lark.i need to know if .002 -
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> thanks in advance
> homer
64daytonaht - 02 Sep 2005 16:10 GMT
Great.  Find out if they're Std. or OS?  STD are still available for the 6.
OS, needed when the block shows ware of .001, or greater, aren't.  I've been
trying to find a set of .001 to .005 OS.

Bo

> Yes it's the block that 'supposed to wear' but I've seen worn lifters just
> as much as I've seen a worn block.  I have some NOS lifters around here
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>> thanks in advance
>> homer
Gordon Richmond - 03 Sep 2005 00:36 GMT
Has anyone had any luck getting the lifters centerless ground and
hard-chrome plated to bring them out to .001" oversize?

Gord Richmond
 
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