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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 20051st Place GT Hawk on E-Bay
It's back, and still a 1st Place car scoring 390 out of 400 before his $8000 paint job. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4573999196 Lee Yep, he sure likes that description better then mine. It should be at least at 390 point car by now, except at International meets. (It scored a 382 before I bought it and before detailing and his new paint.) I figire the extra 10K put in the car might get you the extra 8 points. I think the private auction format is hurting the car, but I'd buy it back. > It's back, and still a 1st Place car scoring 390 out of 400 before his $8000 > paint job. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4573999196 > > Lee  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight is it the leather interior that costs authenticity points? It's not leather, nor is it supposed to be. The things I know I lost points on were: Wrong lighter (that was really correct) Backwards trunk striker (that was not) Staples going through a rubber flap under the hood from the wrong side. Rubber flap in the wheel well torn Reproduction exhaust extensions, emblems and mirrors, not NOS. Wood grain on dash was not correct shade. Air cleaner decal off center (Yea right) Turbo Flow mufflers > is it the leather interior that costs authenticity points? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight Reproduction exhaust extensions, emblems and mirrors, not NOS. Wood grain on dash was not correct shade. Silly time If what you are sayin is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, reproduction parts are a deduction? Wrong shade of wood grain. I am not a GT afficeanado, did they actually use wood veeneer or a paper vinyl overlay and if they did doesn't 30 plus years of UV exposure count for anything? BG Vinyl Dynoc paper, could not get the dead nuts on shade. Yes, they deducted for repro parts. > Reproduction exhaust extensions, emblems and mirrors, not NOS. > Wood grain on dash was not correct shade. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > BG SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight How did he explain that it scored 390 out of 400 points, won the 2004 International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies awarded at that meet? Don't forget an $8000 paint job on a car that needed no body work. Lee > How did he explain that it scored 390 out of 400 points, won the 2004 > International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies > awarded at that meet? I'll never understand that, the car lost 4 points on paint and body at the International. Anyone that saw the car knew it did not need paint. ' > Don't forget an $8000 paint job on a car that needed no body work. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies >>awarded at that meet? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight I guess he was offended by the fact that it was almost arrow-straight, as opposed to Rolls-Royce quality straightness. Only issue I saw was a little orange peel in the area of the C-pillars, and it wouldn't have bothered me one bit. I'd be proud to own that car, and I don't even really like GT Hawks. nate (well, that, and I'd have to sell everything I own to buy it...) > I'll never understand that, the car lost 4 points on paint and body at > the International. Anyone that saw the car knew it did not need paint. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies >>> awarded at that meet? Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Maybe it was painted in a modern color-clearcoat style rather than an original lacquer or enamel? Maybe the chassis was painted in an epoxy paint? Maybe he did not have the Rinshed Mason cans to prove the authentic paint was used? Easy to lose points on paint authenticity. -- wf. > I'll never understand that, the car lost 4 points on paint and body > at the International. Anyone that saw the car knew it did not need paint. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >>International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies > >>awarded at that meet? It was clear coat coat/color coat, I just never wet sanded it mirror smooth since it looked "factory' with a little orange peel. It's probably a lot better then new now, Studebaker did not do 8K paint jobs. <g> > Maybe it was painted in a modern color-clearcoat style rather than an > original lacquer or enamel? Maybe the chassis was painted in an epoxy [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>>>International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies >>>>awarded at that meet? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight Here's some good pix of the car before he painted it, I don't see any differance in the car now.<g> I tried to buy it back, but the paint job was not worth the extra money to me. http://www.stude.com/HR/ > Don't forget an $8000 paint job on a car that needed no body work. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies >>awarded at that meet? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight Well, it did "win" it was the highest scoring car in it's class. I guess he got it from the comment that the 390 points from my auction where I said "it lost 10 points out of 400 for condition issues, the rest were authenticity." I fixed authenticity stuff I knew about before he got the car, and with perfect paint he should score much higher, even with the same judges. <g> > How did he explain that it scored 390 out of 400 points, won the 2004 > International Meet...yet there were NO GT Hawk 1st place trophies > awarded at that meet? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight By-the-way, was there a GT Hawk 1st place winner this year? Joe Roberts By-the-way, was there a GT Hawk 1st place winner this year? Joe Roberts No, but there were very few entered, apparently none very nice. > By-the-way, was there a GT Hawk 1st place winner this year? > Joe Roberts SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 53 Starlight 1st Place GT Hawks are just an urban legend. |
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