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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2005

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Classic Car Restoration TV show.

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John Poulos - 10 Sep 2005 05:29 GMT
  Anyone watch the show ? It's a joke, I hope no one follows there
advice. Just saw them doing the cooling system on a 38 Packard. They
back flushed the system with a garden hose, replaced the thermostat and
hoses and they're done. Hell the system was full of crud and they got
nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
plugs, nada.
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keith_kichefski@wed.dresser.com - 10 Sep 2005 11:02 GMT
They are probably trying to convince people that restoring cars is a
breeze and nothing but sheer joy.  If the truth be told, that they used
an old Studebaker with a V-8, they would turn off the TV in horror.
Imagine a segment where they had to drop the greasy old starter, drive
out the core plugs, dig out three pounds of foundry sand and rust,
while trying to flush it out at the same time, while prodding with bent
coat hangers.  Then show the trail of toxic stains leading down to the
storm sewer.  Not to mention the soping wet clothes, that must be
discarded in the end and trying to get yourself cleaned up.

The following episode could be attempting to replace an oil pan gasket,
in the car including front and rear crankshaft seals, in a Lark, with
single exhaust.

I don't think the show would make the third episode, as the show's
sponsor would stop funding the series.
KK
Lee Aanderud - 12 Sep 2005 01:54 GMT
I'm just glad there's a show out there where we don't see guys going on
paintball fights, the carnival, not bitching constantly at someone else, not
running to the CNC machine everytime they need something made.  I actually
like the show.

Lee

> They are probably trying to convince people that restoring cars is a
> breeze and nothing but sheer joy.  If the truth be told, that they used
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> sponsor would stop funding the series.
> KK
Jeff DeWitt - 11 Sep 2005 18:33 GMT
Well you have to wonder about any car restoration show where the
"mechanic" wears rubber gloves <G>.

I've seen a few episodes of that show, it's better than watching
"Survivor"!  As I recall that Packard had been restored years ago and
then pretty much left to sit, so that garden hose radiator flush may
well have been enough.

Jeff DeWitt

>   Anyone watch the show ? It's a joke, I hope no one follows there
> advice. Just saw them doing the cooling system on a 38 Packard. They
> back flushed the system with a garden hose, replaced the thermostat and
> hoses and they're done. Hell the system was full of crud and they got
> nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
> plugs, nada.
Grumpy AuContraire - 11 Sep 2005 22:11 GMT
Um, I (we) wear rubber gloves all the time, nitrile that is.  Sure saves
your hands and make you presentable later...

JT

> Well you have to wonder about any car restoration show where the
> "mechanic" wears rubber gloves <G>.
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> > nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
> > plugs, nada.
Jeff DeWitt - 12 Sep 2005 00:25 GMT
OK, that was really a dig at the host of that show.  I kind of like the
show but something just seems a little strange about the host, and the
gloves contribute to it.

I suspect he is a bit of a snob.  First car they did was a Corvette,
second car was that Packard and while he did a segment on Packard
history he never mentioned the Studebaker connection.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the nitrile gloves vs the
ones that the guys on shows like "Trucks" wear?

Jeff DeWitt

> Um, I (we) wear rubber gloves all the time, nitrile that is.  Sure saves
> your hands and make you presentable later...
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>>>nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
>>>plugs, nada.
Grumpy AuContraire - 12 Sep 2005 00:51 GMT
Nitrile are not subject to allergies such as latex, are tougher and of
course, more moolah!

JT

> OK, that was really a dig at the host of that show.  I kind of like the
> show but something just seems a little strange about the host, and the
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> >>>nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
> >>>plugs, nada.
George Rohrbach - 12 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
Nitrile is resistant to a wider range of solvents than latex. I keep both
handy in the garage. Of course, I buy them by the case.
 Disadvantages: less feel, less elasticity (harder to put on), higher cost.
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> OK, that was really a dig at the host of that show.  I kind of like the
> show but something just seems a little strange about the host, and the
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>>>nothing out with a cold water flush, no chemicals, no pulling the core
>>>>plugs, nada.
rustynutgarage - 17 Sep 2005 20:16 GMT
The mechanix style gloves that come with all the neon colors and kevlar
protection, they even have one with a light incorporated on the top of
the hand.
Just a fad in my opinion, however if your having to work on a hot
engine they're worth it. Disadvanting is once they get greasy, I found
them impossible to clean. Then everything you touch is greasy.
Go nitrile if you have to protect your soft little digits.
Russ
Jeff DeWitt - 21 Sep 2005 04:18 GMT
I was wondering what you do with those things after they get really
greasy, and they are GOING to get really greasy!

I guess if your doing a TV show and your concerned about style you want
to wear the fancy ones, if your not stylish then you use the nitrile ones.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt

> The mechanix style gloves that come with all the neon colors and kevlar
> protection, they even have one with a light incorporated on the top of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Go nitrile if you have to protect your soft little digits.
> Russ
Ron - 21 Sep 2005 12:39 GMT
I've got a pair I cut the finger tips out of. They help a lot for
protecting the back of your hand when working around sharp or hot
stuff, and with no fingers, I can still do something.

>I was wondering what you do with those things after they get really
>greasy, and they are GOING to get really greasy!
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>> Go nitrile if you have to protect your soft little digits.
>> Russ

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itsfrom Click - 11 Sep 2005 20:55 GMT
our cable system doesn't offer many of the good channels so the
selection of car shows is very limited.......always look forward to a
new series, but they're usually a disappointment when the host is an
actor, not a car person, and it's obvious he's just reading the script
someone else compiled by reading a few general books.

likewise magazines.......the old Special Interest Autos was a mainstay
for many years......really enoyed their comparo tests.....they gave
specs, histories, etc.   Now it's Hemmings Classic Cars.....now
monthly....now lots of pics.  But also, it's now just about shilling
advertisers and apparently no one there is old enough or experienced
enough to know what they're talking about.  Just one example:  the last
issue has an article on the "55-56-57" generation of Buicks....when in
fact the "54-55-56" was one body and had very little in common with the
'57-58 generation.  You'd think - on a common make like that - anyone
could just look at the pics and see that the '57 is a different body.
And, you'd think someone could read the specs and pic out the obvious
errors, like bores and strokes that couldn't possibly be right.  And no
more comparos, no history of a model, etc.  

ah well, as I slip into senility I can comfort myself with 25 years of
Turning Wheels and 40 years Motor Trend, Car Life, etc. , and all those
dealers brochures I kept.  Wonder if they'll go the incinerator some
day!
Matthew Burnette - 11 Sep 2005 21:13 GMT
Or you could always send it all to me to add to my collection...
Matthew (just a thought; not to be taken seriously) Burnette
> our cable system doesn't offer many of the good channels so the
> selection of car shows is very limited.......always look forward to a
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> dealers brochures I kept.  Wonder if they'll go the incinerator some
> day!
 
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