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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2005

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Spinning the Karma Wheel (long)

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Jeff Rice - 15 Sep 2005 00:35 GMT
    There's an old adage that's used a lot in sales that says something
like "you never stop working" . last night it seemed the karma wheel might
spin it for me.  Tuesday was a long day where I had an 8:30 AM meeting in
Charleston South Carolina and at 530 meeting near downtown Atlanta Georgia.
After the 530 meeting concluded hydrovac 100 miles north to get closer to my
early morning destination (Phantom Auto Works).

Anyways, I stopped at a Ruby Tuesday's for late supper and sat at the bar
where I could watch television.  The guy next to me had his laptop open and
was searching his map program to find the best route to and industrial park
in Atlanta.  After a little chit chat we started talking about computers,
and software.   I helped him find where he was going and suggested that he
try the Microsoft streets and trips software with the gps attachment.  We
were then talking about his database contact management tool and we look at
what he was using.  I asked him if he typed in all of his reports or if he
spoke them in using a speech program.  I got the classical "deer in the
headlights "look.

I showed him where the speech to text program was located in Microsoft word
indoor opened up a whole new world to him.  After we finished eating I took
him out and showed him how this streets and trips gps program works, and how
the speech to text program works.  I handed him one of my business cards and
told him to call me if he needed some help getting it working right.  He
handed me one of his business cards and after looking at it I knew the karma
wheel was spinning.   Seems He is in management at ESAB. I told him I was a
hobbyist who liked to work on old cars, especially Studebakers. I told him I
wanted to buy a tig welder.  Not necessarily a new one, but a good use one
or a trade in, or a demo, or a repossession. I gave him I desired specs and
he said he would check into it personally and give me a call.

Jeff (Only time will tell.) Rice

PS: This was a 'speech to text' post....
jab-ph - 15 Sep 2005 00:57 GMT
Good story and interesting "speech to text" demo.  How slowly and
clearly do you have to speak?  I had an MS employee-friend of mine show
it to me last year and the results were less than impressive.

> Jeff (Only time will tell.) Rice
>
>  PS: This was a 'speech to text' post....
Jeff Rice - 15 Sep 2005 04:53 GMT
Pretty quickly actually....
I didn't 'fix' everything (as you can tell) and there are some errors
(mostly context)..
It's a whole lot better than the store bought ocx stuff of years past.
That and the fact that I wrote (spoke) it at 75mph on I-75 ...
After a while you know what words it 'hangs' on and avoid using that
particular word.
My biggest beef is with homonym's... Like break and brake...
Other than that, it is a huge time saver for me...
Jeff

"jab-ph"  wrote...
> Good story and interesting "speech to text" demo.  How slowly and clearly
> do you have to speak?  I had an MS employee-friend of mine show it to me
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>>
>>  PS: This was a 'speech to text' post....
bondobilly - 15 Sep 2005 03:00 GMT
Now I am bitten. I have Microsoft's Streets and Trips. I also have DeLormes
GPS Proram and reciever. The DeLorme reciever/antenna goes into the serial
terminal but will not show any movemment, but I do a check and it says that
it is talking to program. So guru, How do I get Microsofts program to listen
to the reciever? Is there a trick?

Thank you

Lewis & Clarke
Jeff Rice - 15 Sep 2005 12:40 GMT
In MS Streets & Trips......
Up on the toolbar there is a tab marked 'TOOLS'
Select 'GPS'
Select 'Configure GPS Receiver'

It 'should' show the available ports that you could assign the GPS to.
Mine always shows two ports, and it never will work on the first port (which
I think is the mouse).
I always select the second port available (but these are USB... Yours might
identify it as a serial port)

Then go back to the 'GPS' toolbar
Select 'Track Position'

You should go to your DeLorme website and try to update the drivers for your
receiver.
http://www.delorme.com/support/downloads.asp
I don't know much about DeLorme though, but it might help (it did help me
with NavMan)

Hope the info helps.
Jeff

"bondobilly" wrote...
> Now I am bitten. I have Microsoft's Streets and Trips. I also have
> DeLormes GPS Proram and reciever. The DeLorme reciever/antenna goes into
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>
> Lewis & Clarke
Jeff DeWitt - 15 Sep 2005 04:04 GMT
Hey, that's pretty cool, it really does work!

I haven't used voice recogcognition since I had Via Voice on my old
Aptivia, it worked (sort of but wasn't worth the trouble).

My first attempt was even more primitive, using a Sinclair ZX-81, again
it kind of worked but was pretty much just for the cool factor.  When it
worked a square on the TV used for a monitor would go from white to
black. You would affix a suction cup with a light sensor over that spot
on the screen, and use that to control a relay.

You would say the word "ON", the square on the screen would turn white,
and whatever was controlled by the relay would turn on.  Say "OFF" and
the reverse would happen.  It actually did work, provided you spoke very
clearly, stood on one foot, said your prayers, and the moon was in the
right phase (hey, it was a ZX-81, it was a miracle it worked at all!).

Voice technology has come a long way!

Jeff DeWitt

>      There's an old adage that's used a lot in sales that says something
> like "you never stop working" . last night it seemed the karma wheel might
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>
>  PS: This was a 'speech to text' post....
Gordon Richmond - 15 Sep 2005 06:25 GMT
I'm interested in this speech-to-text thing. I could really use it for
work, to get all my sample descriptions entered into my striplogs.

How do you get the punctuation marks, especially things like quotes
and brackets?

Does anyone remember the Victor Borge routine about "spoken
punctuation marks?" It is a hoot.

Gord Richmond
Jeff Rice - 15 Sep 2005 12:52 GMT
I remember that part of his act... A Classic.

I like it a lot because it was free (part of MS Office...Pro, I think)

I can add quote marks, comma's, periods', etc. with mine.
It sometimes will spell 'exclamation point' instead of ! (but I can live
with that)...
It isn't perfect, but I can type a long paragraph or page in less than a
quarter of the time of doing it longhand.
I still spell-check and grammar check everything.

I just wish there was a custom area that you could 'force' certain words or
phrases. Maybe there is, but I haven't tried that hard.
Perhaps they could have modules for doctors, or geologists (or newsgroupers
<lol>)....

This speech thing works in ANY box that will accept text, so it is very
useful.
(Just remember to turn off the microphone when you are done... That can
cause some embarrassing things to get typed wherever you are at <g>)
A lot of times I will just open MS Word and do the speech to text thing in a
blank Word doc so the grammar check will work.
(example:) If I were to just jabber into the Outlook Express box here, all I
could do is spell check...Doing it in a Word blank doc I can spell-check AND
grammar check. Then it's a simple 'select all' and 'cut'...Scoot over to the
box I want and 'paste'... All done.
Jeff (Pretty good way to make a dumb guy like me look literate <lol>...)
Rice

"Gordon Richmond" wrote...
> I'm interested in this speech-to-text thing. I could really use it for
> work, to get all my sample descriptions entered into my striplogs.
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>
> Gord Richmond
midlant@earthlink.net - 15 Sep 2005 16:28 GMT
Remember it? Hell, I still use it.

(The listener sometimes moves back a bit, though.)

Karl

> I'm interested in this speech-to-text thing. I could really use it for
> work, to get all my sample descriptions entered into my striplogs.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Gord Richmond
studebaker8@shaw.ca - 15 Sep 2005 19:25 GMT
G
> Does anyone remember the Victor Borge routine about "spoken
> punctuation marks?" It is a hoot.
>
> Gord Richmond

Definitely remember Victor Borge and his 'Phonetic Puntuation'.  Too
bad he passed away 3 or 4 years ago, and maybe witness the transition
of it from entertainment value to pratical application in this case.
If he was still around, he could licence it to Mirosoft. <g>  

Craig.
Paul Johnson - 15 Sep 2005 19:53 GMT
> G
>> Does anyone remember the Victor Borge routine about "spoken
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of it from entertainment value to pratical application in this case.
> If he was still around, he could licence it to Mirosoft. <g>

Even better live- he sort of matched it to the audience.  We were fortunate
to see him live about a year before he died.  They sold so many seats to his
show that they ended up putting about 40 people in chairs on the stage with
him.
Paul Johnson
studebaker8@shaw.ca - 15 Sep 2005 19:26 GMT
G
> Does anyone remember the Victor Borge routine about "spoken
> punctuation marks?" It is a hoot.
>
> Gord Richmond

Definitely remember Victor Borge and his 'Phonetic Puntuation'.  Too
bad he passed away 3 or 4 years ago, and maybe witness the transition
of it from entertainment value to pratical application in this case.
If he was still around, he could licence it to Mirosoft. <g>  

Craig.
 
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