I'd rather pay the price on the company website:
http://maxifrig.com/
$1.99 ea sounds a lot better than $49.95 plus $9.99 shipping.....
> Anyone ever hear of or use this product?
> Paul Johnson
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-XLG-Cans-DVD-R12-R-12-Freon-R134a-R-134-Compati
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Paul Johnson - 28 Sep 2005 15:21 GMT
> I'd rather pay the price on the company website:
>
> http://maxifrig.com/
>
> $1.99 ea sounds a lot better than $49.95 plus $9.99 shipping.....
Must be that "free instructional DVD" <G>.
>> Anyone ever hear of or use this product?
>> Paul Johnson
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-XLG-Cans-DVD-R12-R-12-Freon-R134a-R-134-Compati
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John Poulos - 28 Sep 2005 15:26 GMT
The $1.99 price is not for 6 cans, it's a bulk price for large
quantities. The $49.95 price is about the same as the Freeze 12.
> I'd rather pay the price on the company website:
>
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>> Paul Johnson
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-XLG-Cans-DVD-R12-R-12-Freon-R134a-R-134-Compati
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What's probably important is what the Maxi_Frig web site DOESN'T say! I'm
guessing that the stuff is a mixture of flammable gases, like propane,
butane, etc. along with a little nitrogen, argon, etc. [since I just happen
to work with a wide range of refrigerants, including ones that work at -300
to -450 °F] That's why it can be pretty cheap while working effectively.
Of course, Maxi-Frig claims they will supply an MSDS sheet, but you have to
request it specially, the info is not on the web site. If you get a leak,
it could go boom. But, since we drive around with 15-20 gallons of
gasoline, why worry about a few ounces of flammable gas? It probably does
work pretty well, but other alternative mixtures may not be as flammable.
Does anyone else know what the gas mixture might be?

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Gary Ash - 28 Sep 2005 23:18 GMT
I did a quick Google search and came up with a little info. Apparently the
EPA feels that Maxi-Frig (and the same stuff sold under different names) is
flammable and therefore illegal to use in car air conditioners. See
http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/snap/regs/65fr78977.pdf and use the Find function
to locate the Maxi-Frig reference on the middle of page 5.
See this one, too, about alternative refrigerants:
http://hostingprod.com/@aa1car.com/library/tr497.htm

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John Poulos - 28 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT
Thanks, I'll stick with Freeze 12. BTW, they are the company
mentioned that has claimed to have sold a million pounds of the stuff.
I've used maybe a few dozen cans without a issue in various Studebakers.
> I did a quick Google search and came up with a little info. Apparently the
> EPA feels that Maxi-Frig (and the same stuff sold under different names) is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> See this one, too, about alternative refrigerants:
> http://hostingprod.com/@aa1car.com/library/tr497.htm

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Paul Johnson - 29 Sep 2005 00:14 GMT
> Thanks, I'll stick with Freeze 12. BTW, they are the company mentioned
> that has claimed to have sold a million pounds of the stuff. I've used
> maybe a few dozen cans without a issue in various Studebakers.
Freeze 12 is on the EPA acceptable list per Gary's second link.
Paul Johnson
John Poulos - 29 Sep 2005 00:21 GMT
Yep, it's even in stock at my Pep Boys now.
>> Thanks, I'll stick with Freeze 12. BTW, they are the company mentioned
>> that has claimed to have sold a million pounds of the stuff. I've used
>> maybe a few dozen cans without a issue in various Studebakers.
>>
> Freeze 12 is on the EPA acceptable list per Gary's second link.
> Paul Johnson

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64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
62 Lark 2 door
61 Hawk
60? Hawk
55 custom HT
53 coupe rod.
53 Starlight
Paul Johnson - 29 Sep 2005 00:13 GMT
>I did a quick Google search and came up with a little info. Apparently the
>EPA feels that Maxi-Frig (and the same stuff sold under different names) is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> See this one, too, about alternative refrigerants:
> http://hostingprod.com/@aa1car.com/library/tr497.htm
Thanks Gary. Good info.
Paul Johnson