Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / September 2005
Best Stude deal nowadays?
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matt borland - 30 Sep 2005 02:17 GMT I'm an SDC member, longtime lurker, rare contributor, and I'm wondering what you guys think is undervalued nowadays in the Stude market. (I know, "all of 'em!" or "mine!")
I've noticed the Hawks, bulletnose Commanders, Speedsters, etc. have gone up quite a bit in the past couple years for good clean examples. The number of ads for good clean cars in Turning Wheels seems to be going down, with more flocks and needs a little (more like a sh*tload of) work, so I'm wondering what you guys think is the current steal of Studes.
Late 40's pickups?
Early 50's pickups?
Neither since the last TW showcased them both?
Cruisers? Larks? Anything with a six?
Let's hear it!
-Matt- "No Stude yet..."
bobcaripalma@hotmail.com - 30 Sep 2005 02:35 GMT The more doors and the fewer cylinders a car has will reduce its value, all other factors being equal. (I.E, a 4-door six will usually be the cheapest car you can buy.)
Value-wise, I always thought a nice 1965 Cruiser Six would be a good compromise car. Enough power to get out of its own way, but with the nice, nice Cruiser interior.
A couple years ago, I wanted an automatic-trans Stude to drive to meets and tours, being tired of shifting a four-speed. I bought a usable 1964 Daytona 4-door with 180 HP 259 (although it has duals on it) and Flightomatic. It's a car I really enjoy. 'Never the flashiest car at the meet, but it's comfortable and useful and didn't set me back an arm and a leg. BP
Sals54 - 30 Sep 2005 03:22 GMT I would have to agree with BP. The highest level trimmed 4 door Daytona would be the way to go. Get a 289 4 barrel carb Automatic with AC and if it warrants the work, do some engine mods to boost the HP. Maybe do the Avanti mods on the engine with a nice free flowing, but quiet exhaust and that would be a fabulous sleeper to blow past most modern cars on the highway and still drive a cool Stude. I don't know if it will ever make the top ten list of Stude collectibles, but they are the most refined of the Studes as well. I still have one of those on my wish list.
Robert Black - 30 Sep 2005 04:33 GMT When I see what rust free four door Larks go for on E-Bay in the rust free states I wonder if a guy could make any money on shipping a whole truck load back here to the East coast rust belt. Its just the shipping that kills them,especially flat head six four doors. See some nice examples go for 1200 -1500 dollars,how can you beat that ?.
>I would have to agree with BP. The highest level trimmed 4 door Daytona > would be the way to go. Get a 289 4 barrel carb Automatic with AC and if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the top ten list of Stude collectibles, but they are the most refined of > the Studes as well. I still have one of those on my wish list. John Poulos - 30 Sep 2005 05:02 GMT If I could do it and make a buck I would, but fuel costs make it impossible. Last year, La. area to Md was $900, now $1300 and that's with a decent discount over the regular rate. Decent 4 doors needing no, or little work are in the 3K range, and that means a $4500 break even deal brought out east for resale. I missed this little HT by a day, I think it would have been worth the shipping.
http://modesto.craigslist.org/car/97384547.html
> When I see what rust free four door Larks go for on E-Bay in the rust free > states I wonder if a guy could make any money on shipping a whole truck load [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> the top ten list of Stude collectibles, but they are the most refined of >> the Studes as well. I still have one of those on my wish list.
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 55 custom HT 53 coupe rod. 53 Starlight
Charles Kunicki - 30 Sep 2005 12:18 GMT I turned down a '60, six banger last week, no time to haul it myself, from NJ to NEPA I was quoted $750.00 + tolls,etc
> If I could do it and make a buck I would, but fuel costs make it > impossible. Last year, La. area to Md was $900, now $1300 and that's with [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>> the top ten list of Stude collectibles, but they are the most refined of >>> the Studes as well. I still have one of those on my wish list. Grumpy AuContraire - 30 Sep 2005 04:36 GMT > The more doors and the fewer cylinders a car has will reduce its value, > all other factors being equal. (I.E, a 4-door six will usually be the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > car at the meet, but it's comfortable and useful and didn't set me back > an arm and a leg. BP ...and pretty doggone economical on gas too!
JT
Mark Anderson - 30 Sep 2005 11:49 GMT Funny you'd mention a 1965 Cruiser six, that's exactly what I'm driving. It IS a really nice, comfy car and the little McKinnon six has plenty of scoot.
Mark
> The more doors and the fewer cylinders a car has will reduce its value, > all other factors being equal. (I.E, a 4-door six will usually be the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > car at the meet, but it's comfortable and useful and didn't set me back > an arm and a leg. BP jflan63@aol.com - 30 Sep 2005 12:41 GMT Matt, I am surprised that you would have time for a studebaker, I mean you are the Nascar crew chief for Ryan Neuman from South Bend Indianna correct ? Good luck to you guys at Talladega this weekend.Are there any other Ryan Neuman fans out there on the newsgroup ? I like this kid. He drives clean, he is quiet and has an engineering degree. He communicates well with his crew,and can speak their language. I realise you aren't the other Matt Borland. I just could resist giving the kid from South Bend a plug. If you are Ryan's crew chief get some used Nascar Chevy parts laying around the pits and replace the Mckinnon Chevy 283 with some new technology . It will bolt into a 65-66 Chevy Baker V-8 equipped car.
> I'm an SDC member, longtime lurker, rare contributor, and > I'm wondering what you guys think is undervalued nowadays [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -Matt- "No Stude yet..." matt borland - 30 Sep 2005 15:28 GMT > Matt, > I am surprised that you would have time for a studebaker, I mean [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > laying around the pits and replace the Mckinnon Chevy 283 with some new > technology . It will bolt into a 65-66 Chevy Baker V-8 equipped car. Heh, no I'm the _other_ Matt Borland...
I never thought somebody with that name would get famous... At least it's for being a Nascar crew chief... Funny, he and I are close to the same age and he looks twice as old. I must be doing something right. :-)
Of course, how could I not root for Ryan Newman? I mean, Ryan's crew chief has to be brilliant with a cool name like that!
...and yes, I think maybe we need to talk Cathcart, Harbit, and Stone into fielding an entry. Maybe we could homologate a '61 Hawk body...
I'll be the listed crew chief just to throw everyone off. It's genius!
-Matt- "..."
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