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Frogs and Princes
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John Poulos - 31 Oct 2005 05:16 GMT Buying and selling a bunch of Studebakers, I've come to the conclusion that you have to expect that most frogs won't turn into princes, but it all evens out. The 53 street rod was described as a nice driver, but only had one wheel brakes and the turn signals and flashers were not even hooked up. It's the kind of issue you'd think the PO would mention, but I just blow it off and fix the stuff and hope for better next time. On the other hand, we have the R1 GT Hawk Sal just picked up for us. It was described as "Needing full restoration" and having "Some rust" and was priced accordingly. When Sal got to the car, he found a nearly rust free straight body, rechromed bumpers, recently rebuilt front suspension and a decent interior, but needing paint. The car started right up and drove on the trailer a bargain at well over the owners asking price. I might have a run of a half dozen frogs that I can barely break even on, then you get a prince that keeps you going. If I were buying e Studebaker for myself I might not like the odds based on the way most owners "forget" to mention the defects compared to the occasional honest or even overly critical seller.
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 R1 Gt Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 55 custom HT 53 coupe rod. 53 Starlight
Studebaker George - 01 Nov 2005 14:11 GMT J.P, whatever happened to the GT from Jax Florida that you bought? Have I been too busy to notice it being sold or are you still turning it into a "prince"? Just curious.. Studebaker George
oldcarfart - 01 Nov 2005 14:21 GMT George, JP may be real good at what he does, but you cannot polish a turd!
Grumpy AuContraire - 01 Nov 2005 15:41 GMT > George, JP may be real good at what he does, but you cannot polish a > turd! Down in these heeyah pahts... You kin polish a turd all day but it still remains a turd!
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John Poulos - 01 Nov 2005 15:54 GMT Oh yea, wait for pix. <g> ( Not a show car, but it'll bring over the 6K reserve.)
> George, JP may be real good at what he does, but you cannot polish a > turd!
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 R1 Gt Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 55 custom HT 53 coupe rod. 53 Starlight
Jeff DeWitt - 05 Nov 2005 04:06 GMT I bet if you freeze one really hard it will take a polish. You can also polish a coprolite.
http://www.oceansofkansas.com/Coprolite.html
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> George, JP may be real good at what he does, but you cannot polish a > turd! John Poulos - 05 Nov 2005 04:25 GMT 'I should have waited a few days before putting the GT on ebay. Not only can you polish a turd, you can wax it.<g>
> I bet if you freeze one really hard it will take a polish. You can also > polish a coprolite. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> George, JP may be real good at what he does, but you cannot polish a >> turd!
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 R1 Gt Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 60? Hawk 53 coupe rod.
John Poulos - 01 Nov 2005 15:52 GMT Just about done with it. I fixed the floor, added carpets, N8 is making all the electrical stuff work. ( All my GT's all have working fender top fin lights and glove box lights because of N8)<g>
> J.P, whatever happened to the GT from Jax Florida that you bought? > Have I been too busy to notice it being sold or are you still turning > it into a "prince"? Just curious.. > Studebaker George
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 R1 Gt Hawk 62 Lark 2 door 61 Hawk 60? Hawk 55 custom HT 53 coupe rod. 53 Starlight
N8N - 01 Nov 2005 16:31 GMT Just to set the record straight, while the fender top light may have been unnecessary, the dome light, dash lights, and glovebox light got fixed merely because I had to trace out all the dangly wires under the dash before I could even begin to try to figure out what needed to go to the fuel gauge :)
I still need to figure out why a) the fuel gauge has no power and b) when I jump power to it I don't get a reading even though there's resistance to ground on the red wire.
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> Just about done with it. I fixed the floor, added carpets, N8 is > making all the electrical stuff work. ( All my GT's all have working [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 53 coupe rod. > 53 Starlight Dave's Place - 01 Nov 2005 17:49 GMT > I still need to figure out why a) the fuel gauge has no power and b) > when I jump power to it I don't get a reading even though there's > resistance to ground on the red wire. Uh, how much fuel is in the tank, N8? <G>
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Pat Drnec - 01 Nov 2005 18:03 GMT It's a bad ground.
Somebody had to say it.
> Just to set the record straight, while the fender top light may have > been unnecessary, the dome light, dash lights, and glovebox light got [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >>53 coupe rod. >>53 Starlight
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