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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / November 2005More CE madness
My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed and rear fenders look real good, that's the best part about it. A ton of stuff is missing and after looking at the engine/tranny for a few bewildered minutes I realized they aren't Studebaker at all...I'm not positive but I think they are either from a Packard or Plymouth. A flathead six with floor shift three speeder but rigged in the engine compartment and the floor has been "modified" for the shifter. All in all a project of very large proportions...but what beautiful lines! The cylinder head has a large "P" cast into it at the rear. Anyone have any ideas? Doesn't matter about the engine as an R1 powershift will go in it should he recover from his initial shock. Seems even though he had gone and seen it in person, it isn't what he remembered...no idea what he paid for it, I will have to fill him full of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. Studebaker George George, What year is your buddy's Coupe-Express? If it is a "37 I may be able to offer a small amount of help on parts - I have a few extra things but I'm hunting for parts too. I might be willing to trade some things as well. Let me know what he's looking for and I will see if I can help. Thor It's a 39. There are too many parts missing to list here. He will have to do an inventory first. The boxes of stuff that came with it are mixed with parts from other cars. Studebaker George > My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the > shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. > Studebaker George If it is a flathead six, I am guessing it is not Packard, all of the Packards that I'm familiar with use straight eight engines, I believe they clearly say "Packard" on the cylinder head as well... nate N8 is correct that the straight 8 Packards say Packard on the heads. However, beginning in 1937 Packard did make what is referred to as the 110 and that is a six cylinder engine. I can't remember if they say Packard or not but I would think they do. Mike >> My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the >> shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > nate >... If it is a flathead six, I am guessing it is not Packard, all of the > Packards that I'm familiar with use straight eight engines, I believe > they clearly say "Packard" on the cylinder head as well... Actually, Packard did build flathead sixes- the 110 models of the early 40's (maybe even earlier). Paul Johnson Packard Six (called the 110 in some years) was built from 1937 through 1947 and for export thru 1949. Packard also sold them to White truck. All after the first year were 245 cubic inches. A very nice engine and more powerful than you might expect. Coincidentally, same size as last version of the Commander Six used in Studebaker trucks well into the late '50s. Hal Hermann >>... If it is a flathead six, I am guessing it is not Packard, all of the >> Packards that I'm familiar with use straight eight engines, I believe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 40's (maybe even earlier). > Paul Johnson Yep, the Packard 110 came out with the 1937 model year. But like the straitght 8s I believe they say Packard on the head. Mike >>... If it is a flathead six, I am guessing it is not Packard, all of the >> Packards that I'm familiar with use straight eight engines, I believe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 40's (maybe even earlier). > Paul Johnson > > My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the > > shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > nate There were Packard junior cars with sixes. BTW, I may have access to a 1937 CE bare block... JT Yes, Packard made sixes for the "junior" cars; the 110 and 115's. For the record, the junior cars also included the 120 series, a controversial model that used a straight eight. My mom just sold her 1939 120 a little while ago as she is in her late seveties and it is a bit to handle. I have done a bit of work on Packards over the years but haven't ever worked on one of their sixes. I'll keep the NG updated on this thing as we get it sorted and I'm sure there will be a long want list....if my buddy's heart holds out when he hears some prices and if he decides to proceed. Fortunately, his wallet is OK... Studebaker George I still have bits and pices of a 39 CE sitting out back....mainly just the frame, rearend, engine (cracked block), transmission, front spindles (no hubs) and I think the front "shocks" (lever style). Mike Gaither got the body months ago and didn't need these parts, so if anyone can use them, let me know...it's just taking up vauluable weed-growing space and I'm tired of having to mow around it! I also have a '61 Tcab frame, body shell (needs floors), long 'Dodge' bed, decent front fenders and front 'surround', rear end (6.89 ratio?). No engine/trans...still has the steering column and seat springs/frame. The front sheet metal is the only thing worth more than scrap prices...buy them and you can have the rest of it FREE!!! While I'm getting rid of stuff, I might as well see if anyone is interested ina 55 2-dr coupe. I stripped the body/interior down a couple years ago but still have all the parts on shelves in the shop, including the wraparound windshield. Butterknife trim is pretty bad but still there. The front chrome is decent, just slightly pitted and the fenders need the usual small rust repair. The floorboards had been patched with tin sheets and I never got around to doing anything with it, other than stripping it down. The flatty 6 and 3 on the tree runs and moved the car around quite well 5 years ago...it's been sitting since then, gathering dust and surface rust. I have the title to it somewhere...but danged if I know where it might be! I bought the car in Dallas and trailered it home and promptly misplaced it, so consider it title-less...I have no idea who the guy was that I bought it from, so there's little to no chance of getting a replacement title issued. Make me an offer on any of this stuff...I"m tired of seeing it all out back and having it remind me that I don't have the time or inclination to work on any of it anymore! I even have a 16' flatbed, an electric winch and will help you haul it all off within a reasonable distance! Bob > My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the > shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. > Studebaker George Bob, What gear ratio is the rear end? Barry > I still have bits and pices of a 39 CE sitting out back....mainly just > the frame, rearend, engine (cracked block), transmission, front [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. > > Studebaker George I have just acquired a 39 CE myself. It is mostly complete, but I do need some bits. I am looking for engine side panels, rear bumper, and other stuff. I am happy to share photos if anyone wants to see it, contact me at allen@ebold.com. Allen I still have bits and pices of a 39 CE sitting out back....mainly just the frame, rearend, engine (cracked block), transmission, front spindles (no hubs) and I think the front "shocks" (lever style). Mike Gaither got the body months ago and didn't need these parts, so if anyone can use them, let me know...it's just taking up vauluable weed-growing space and I'm tired of having to mow around it! I also have a '61 Tcab frame, body shell (needs floors), long 'Dodge' bed, decent front fenders and front 'surround', rear end (6.89 ratio?). No engine/trans...still has the steering column and seat springs/frame. The front sheet metal is the only thing worth more than scrap prices...buy them and you can have the rest of it FREE!!! While I'm getting rid of stuff, I might as well see if anyone is interested ina 55 2-dr coupe. I stripped the body/interior down a couple years ago but still have all the parts on shelves in the shop, including the wraparound windshield. Butterknife trim is pretty bad but still there. The front chrome is decent, just slightly pitted and the fenders need the usual small rust repair. The floorboards had been patched with tin sheets and I never got around to doing anything with it, other than stripping it down. The flatty 6 and 3 on the tree runs and moved the car around quite well 5 years ago...it's been sitting since then, gathering dust and surface rust. I have the title to it somewhere...but danged if I know where it might be! I bought the car in Dallas and trailered it home and promptly misplaced it, so consider it title-less...I have no idea who the guy was that I bought it from, so there's little to no chance of getting a replacement title issued. Make me an offer on any of this stuff...I"m tired of seeing it all out back and having it remind me that I don't have the time or inclination to work on any of it anymore! I even have a 16' flatbed, an electric winch and will help you haul it all off within a reasonable distance! Bob > My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the > shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. > Studebaker George If it's a Pontiac it should have an Indian head on the side of the block. Studeski Claude Chmielewski claudeski@netzero.com http://www.studeski.com Fillmore, Wisconsin 1947 M16 Truck 1962 GT Hawk 1963 Lark 1964 Commander Wagonaire > My buddy's CE arrived a little while ago and after shoving it into the > shop and a quick look over in limited light, it is RRRufff. The bed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of beer and drag out my best cigars to maybe pry it out of him. > Studebaker George |
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