Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
A school would get the boot. BTW, engineers used 'conventional current
flow" from positive to negative for many years, some still do.
> So you think this newsgroup is irrelevant?
> So you think nothing is ever discussed here that involves knowledge?
> OkeeDokee....
> Take this test and report back here!
>
> http://www.apratech.org/Certification2000/QA.asp

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John Poulos - 09 Nov 2005 00:10 GMT
WTF, the test claims a thermistor is used to measure changes in position
?? Guess I didn't ace it, since I thing it's temperature.
> Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
> A school would get the boot. BTW, engineers used 'conventional current
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>>
>> http://www.apratech.org/Certification2000/QA.asp

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Freddy Badgett - 09 Nov 2005 01:01 GMT
> WTF, the test claims a thermistor is used to measure changes in position
> ?? Guess I didn't ace it, since I thing it's temperature.
>
This plumber missed 4. I missed my true calling...<G>
Freddy
(I think a thermistor is for temperature too !)
James - 09 Nov 2005 01:40 GMT
You are correct, the test does have some grammar errors as well
> WTF, the test claims a thermistor is used to measure changes in position
> ?? Guess I didn't ace it, since I thing it's temperature.
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>>>
>>> http://www.apratech.org/Certification2000/QA.asp
Jeff DeWitt - 09 Nov 2005 03:12 GMT
Unless the defination of thermistor has changed in the last few years
the test is wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermistor
Jeff DeWitt
> WTF, the test claims a thermistor is used to measure changes in position
> ?? Guess I didn't ace it, since I thing it's temperature.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>
>>> http://www.apratech.org/Certification2000/QA.asp
Grumpy AuContraire - 09 Nov 2005 01:15 GMT
Yes, conventional current theory as practiced by every electrical engineer/electrician...
JT
> Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
> A school would get the boot. BTW, engineers used 'conventional current
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
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John Poulos - 09 Nov 2005 01:56 GMT
The "holes" left by the electrons flow from positive to negative..
> Yes, conventional current theory as practiced by every electrical engineer/electrician...
>
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oldcarfart - 09 Nov 2005 02:38 GMT
no mention of conductive air gaps or conductive glue (old rating exam
distractors).
John Poulos - 09 Nov 2005 02:44 GMT
Most important quote from E.T. school. " Ground is ground, if it's up a
seagulls a.s, it's ground."
> no mention of conductive air gaps or conductive glue (old rating exam
> distractors).

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Grumpy AuContraire - 09 Nov 2005 11:33 GMT
It all seems so simple to me... Wouldn't electrons (negatively charged
components of atoms) tend to flow to an area deficient of electrons? If
you answer "yes," then the area that is deficient must be positively
charged, yes? About this time, a typical response from an electrician
is often a blank empty stare...
<G>
JT
> The "holes" left by the electrons flow from positive to negative..
>
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Jeff Rice - 09 Nov 2005 11:44 GMT
You just described perfectly voting in Florida...(with the corresponding
party reaction)
JT wrote...
> It all seems so simple to me... Wouldn't electrons (negatively charged
> components of atoms) tend to flow to an area deficient of electrons? If
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> <G>
> JT
Grumpy AuContraire - 18 Nov 2005 02:16 GMT
I guess that I missed my calling, eh?
Wait a minute... Since I retired, I kin start down a new path, yes???
JT
(Polishing his tiny book of sarcastic utterances...)
> You just described perfectly voting in Florida...(with the corresponding
> party reaction)
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> > <G>
> > JT
Dave's Place - 18 Nov 2005 03:52 GMT
> (Polishing his tiny book of sarcastic utterances...)
Tiny? -¿Ö

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JH - 09 Nov 2005 14:30 GMT
I started out going to vocational school for 2 yrs to be a electronics
technician. We were taught electron flow; current flows from negative
to positive. Later, I went to a 4 yr college to be a EE (pretty much
had to start over since little would transfer). There, we were taught
conventional current flow; current flows from positive to negative.
Always wondered why the difference.... I once read or heard somewhere
that back in the 19th century, before electrons were discovered,
someone just guessed which way it went and it turned out they were
wrong but by then it had become a "standard". Still does not explain
why techs are taught one thing and engineers another.
Vacuum tube theory makes more sense using electron flow (- to +) but a
lot of semiconductor theory makes more sense with conventional flow (+
to -). It really doesn't matter either way as the math works out the
same.
Everything I do in my daily design work on electronics is with
conventional current flow.
Jeff
Mike S. - 09 Nov 2005 01:27 GMT
BTW, engineers used 'conventional current flow" from positive to negative
for many years, some still do.
--Do they work on Nortons, or Triumphs?
At the shop where I served my apprenticeship, a tech rep from a then-major
electronics firm asked to install their prototype electronic ignition
conversion on some of our motor cycles. The owner let him go for a couple
of hours with an oscilloscope (and a briefcase full of fried circuit boards)
before casually commenting "These are all positive ground, y'know..." He
did the ice-cream-on-the forehead slap, packed up his gear, and never came
back.
We presumed that the American makers started having their electrons run the
other way some time around 1956.
BTW. If you REALLY believed they flowed negative-to-positive, why would you
use negative ground, flooding the whole frame with wayward electrons waiting
for a path to open? That's like physics according to Rene Descartes.
Dwain G. - 09 Nov 2005 04:22 GMT
> Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
> A school would get the boot.
......................................................
I only made it about 5 weeks (Treasure Island, 1960).
Some of those questions appear in the ASE tests also.
Jeff Grohs - 09 Nov 2005 06:23 GMT
>>Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
>>A school would get the boot.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Some of those questions appear in the ASE tests also.
boy, that's an old test. only considers bipolar transistors... what
about MOS?
John Poulos - 09 Nov 2005 06:39 GMT
Made is through the 45 weeks of A school without a problem, but was
dead last in class at the 52 weeks of B school. B school did not have
one piece of actual electronic equipment, all just math and technical
crap. Never did figure out what good that school did for the Navy. Maybe
some day I'll need calculus or matrix algebra, but not so far.
>> Any Navy ET that could not ace that test after the first six weeks of ET
>> A school would get the boot.
> ......................................................
> I only made it about 5 weeks (Treasure Island, 1960).
>
> Some of those questions appear in the ASE tests also.

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