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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / January 2006

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High temperature clear coat

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jimmijim8@yahoo.com - 03 Jan 2006 00:24 GMT
Any body out there in Stude land happen to have any experience with
high temperature clear coat? I would like to spray it on my top and
bottom radiator tanks of my car. Any tips at all would be appreciated.
Brands and where to buy would help. Possibly you've done this . Also
looking to purchase a drivers side rocker panel moulding for a 62-64
Hawk. Both sides may be the same. I need this to be a nice part. Still
looking for a complete full dash for a 62-64 Hawk in decent shape. Let
me know what if anything that you may have. Overlays dont need to be
perfect as I am going to refinish any way.  jimmijim       304-723-5253
    jimmijim8  at  yahoo  dot  com.  Google won't let me post my
e-mail addres properly but I think you'll get the meaning.  thanks and
Happy New Year.    Jim Kranak
52hawk - 03 Jan 2006 00:27 GMT
Your radiator tanks will not get hot enough to require high temp
paint.If they do get that hot,you'll need an engine.plain old black
enamel or urethane is all you need.
jimmijim8@yahoo.com - 03 Jan 2006 01:48 GMT
I have polished the tanks to a high luster. That is the reason I want
to use clear coat. Years ago I used a regular lacquer and it didn't
last long.
Bondo - 03 Jan 2006 03:45 GMT
You  might have a compatability problem. Some Clears are made to go over a
Basecoat that is compatible. There  are some non-catalytic clears that dry
by flashing off the solvents, but you might find that because of the high
shine the clear  might seperate over a short period of time.

BG
>I have polished the tanks to a high luster. That is the reason I want
> to use clear coat. Years ago I used a regular lacquer and it didn't
> last long.
Mike S. - 03 Jan 2006 04:15 GMT
Last year I used various engine enamels to "tole-paint" the alpine scene
cast into the doors of my Timberline wood stove.  Hard to guess the back &
front temps of the plates during combustion, but stack temp at the heat
exchanger varies from 200 to 400 F, so I guess 600 on the inside of the 1"
doors max.  Black stays black but loses gloss, GMC green holds up OK, white
yellows a little, and F**d blue slowly & mellowly goes to hell.  All stay on
OK.  My big pisser was that it looked so nice new that I oversprayed the
whole project with FLAPS hi-temp clear, and the clear all browned, even over
other colors that were holding up nicely.  I had to retouch the whole thing.
Doesn't look too bad now.

"High" is sort of relative.  Your metal is thinner, so should be close to
the indicated water temp inside, but heats & cools quicker than iron.
Easily available spray clear is no good at the temperatures I see (or on an
engine block IIRC).  POR-15 has a clear, and my recent experience with their
products is real good.  I'd look into that.
Barry - 03 Jan 2006 04:22 GMT
I would agree with the POR 15 clear, or other urethane or acrylic urethane
clear.  It may be worth while to use spray can adhesion promoter prior to
applying the clear coat.

> Last year I used various engine enamels to "tole-paint" the alpine scene
> cast into the doors of my Timberline wood stove.  Hard to guess the back &
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> engine block IIRC).  POR-15 has a clear, and my recent experience with their
> products is real good.  I'd look into that.
bill@bondobilly.com - 03 Jan 2006 23:02 GMT
>I would agree with the POR 15 clear, or other urethane or acrylic urethane
>clear.  It may be worth while to use spray can adhesion promoter prior to
>applying the clear coat

Problem with most of those is that they contain isocyanates, or
derivatives, which call kill you. If you get it on clothing and skin
wash with cold water, and dispose of clothes and towels.

I think Ray might back me up on this, but if you take 1000 to1600
color sandpaper, and start rubbing down the clear on a car that was
painted 5 to 8 years ago, you will start to smell the chemistry and
actually release some of the isocaynates. I have no answer why is
happens, but it does.

BG
oldcarfart - 06 Jan 2006 03:28 GMT
The POR15 clear has issues, just use "clear" engine paint over surface
wiped with denatured alcohol and white paper towels.
 
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