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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / February 2006

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Distributor Vacum Advance/R4

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Michael - Roseland FL - 28 Feb 2006 03:28 GMT
I would like to try using a vacum advance unit on the distributor of my
R4 engine.  It has the correct carb. front and rear and the rear carb
has a plug where the vacum advance would go on a R1, R2 or R3 carb.
This is factory.  If I were to put a vacum advance on the distributor
that is set up centrifugal, any ideas where I would pick up the correct
amount of vacum other than the carb?  I hate to mess witht the original
carb.  There is a T that comes off the intake manifold. One is plugged
and the other goes to the choke.  I was thinking this may be a source
but also thought it may have too much vacum?
GTtim - 28 Feb 2006 03:39 GMT
The vacuum at the carb is totally different than manifold vacuum.  I
don't know the details but I know that manifold vacuum won't work.  The
vacuum from the carb is taken from the the throat area and basically
works in reverse of manifold vacuum I think.
Tim K.
Alex Magdaleno - 28 Feb 2006 06:12 GMT
R4's don't make much vacuum so that is why they didn't use it. Most cars
used ported vacuum at the Carb, which means there was no vacuum advance at
idle. Some cars used full manifold vacuum at  the carb, but you could also
use the T. You woul then have high advance at idle and the idle speed would
jump way up. With dual carbs, you might not be able to close them down
enough to set the idle speed. You could try it and see what happens. The
only purpose of vacuum advance is better mileage and yours will be shitty
either way. The car would also run cooler with vacuum advance.
>I would like to try using a vacum advance unit on the distributor of my
> R4 engine.  It has the correct carb. front and rear and the rear carb
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> and the other goes to the choke.  I was thinking this may be a source
> but also thought it may have too much vacum?
studebaker kid - 28 Feb 2006 10:12 GMT
a SIMPLE WAY TO FIND THE RIGHT PORT IS TO USE A VACCUME GAGE

put the gage on the port in question and start your vehicle.  If the
vaccume rading increases as you raise the idle speed then you have trhe
right port.

some carbs have two sources  for increasing vaccume that can be used
they can be either venturi or ported vaccume either will work but which
you use will depend on the rating of the advance unit that you
install....meaning how much vaccume does it take to move the advance
though its stroke.
 
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