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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / February 2006

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know where the fuel shut off switch is located 1998 saturn  

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isaias moran - 28 Feb 2006 04:53 GMT
i have a question to somebody that knows  about mechanics  my car stopped
after ran out of gasoline then i filled up again but now the car doesnt want
start the engine
please somebody  help me.
Alex Magdaleno - 28 Feb 2006 05:59 GMT
What kind of car? Carburetor or fuel injection?

>i have a question to somebody that knows  about mechanics  my car stopped
> after ran out of gasoline then i filled up again but now the car doesnt
> want
> start the engine
> please somebody  help me.
studebaker kid - 28 Feb 2006 10:03 GMT
Good luck.....some fuel injected cars can be a bitch to prime if you
run thm out of fuel.

What I used to do when I replaced in the tank fuel pumps was to use an
air compressor to pressurize the fuel tank with about 20 psi.

I would always replace the fuel filters and under the hood at the fuel
rail of the throttle body injector I would disconnect the line.  Then I
would have a helper watch for fuel as I gently pressurized the tank.

Yah see most electronic fuel pumps have a shut off so that if pressure
is not reached within a few seconds the pump shuts off.   This is to
prevent fires in the event of plumbing problems under the hood.

If you want to find the "switch" go to an auto parts place and but the
propper manual.
oldcarfart - 28 Feb 2006 14:14 GMT
you probably sucked the filter sock flat or seized the pump, tow it to
a shop or dealer, no reason to run a vehicle below 1/4 tank.
N8N - 28 Feb 2006 14:23 GMT
> i have a question to somebody that knows  about mechanics

so you posted a question about a Saturn to a Studebaker newsgroup.

Welllllll.... that actually makes sense :)

> my car stopped
> after ran out of gasoline then i filled up again but now the car doesnt want
> start the engine
> please somebody  help me.

Often on a modern FI car when you turn the key on the fuel pump will
run for only a few seconds to "prime" the system and then shut off and
not run again until it gets a signal that the engine is running (from
the ignition, crank position sensor, cam sensor, something like that.
It varies with the car but the principle is the same.)

What that means is, if your tank is now full, or at least has enough
fuel in it, you may be able to get the system to prime simply by
turning the key on (but not trying to start the engine) wait 10 sec. or
so, turn it off again, turn back on, wait 10 sec., etc. repeat maybe
10x and then try to start the car.  It might work, and save you a tow
bill...

You should be able to actually hear the fuel pump run when you turn the
ignition key on and then stop running after a few seconds.  If you
don't hear it at all you may have a fuel pump issue, but I suspect that
you've just lost prime.

good luck,

nate
midlant@earthlink.net - 28 Feb 2006 19:10 GMT
I speak only about diesels. I've never worked with a gas FI.
Run a diesel pumo dry and it is ruined.
I've run out of gas probably 20 times with a regular car (twice in one
weekend!), but I changed my ways while I had a FI one.
$$$

Karl
- 28 Feb 2006 20:13 GMT
owners manual.. but you COULD HAVE fried the fuel pump.. and if
so, there went.. pick a number between 2 and 6 HUNDRED..

    --Shiva--
   
   
Lee Aanderud - 28 Feb 2006 21:00 GMT
I ran a John Deere combine out of diesel once... then got to prime it with
that little priming pump way down on the engine where it's near impossible
to reach and the priming pump moves something like 3/4" per stroke.  3
hours, 6000 strokes, and threatening to quit about a dozen times and
convincing myself that this wasn't going to work later and I finally got it
restarted... and swore I'd never let that happen again.

Lee

>I speak only about diesels. I've never worked with a gas FI.
> Run a diesel pumo dry and it is ruined.
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>
> Karl
Paul Johnson - 28 Feb 2006 22:21 GMT
>I ran a John Deere combine out of diesel once... then got to prime it with
>that little priming pump way down on the engine where it's near impossible
>to reach and the priming pump moves something like 3/4" per stroke.  3
>hours, 6000 strokes, and threatening to quit about a dozen times and
>convincing myself that this wasn't going to work later and I finally got it
>restarted... and swore I'd never let that happen again.

I learned the same lesson on a Massey-Harris diesel- took several hours to
get going again.
Paul Johnson
 
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