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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / March 2006

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John Poulos - 02 Mar 2006 03:48 GMT
   I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
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GTtim - 02 Mar 2006 03:59 GMT
> I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
E-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33614QQitemZ8042190233QQrdZ1

The R2+ cam that I got from Ted has the following specs:
268 degrees duration
224 to 228 @ .050 lift
lift .447
I don't know what the seperation degrees is.

Tim K.
John Poulos - 02 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT
  This one must be a little milder.

260 degrees duration
216 @ .050,
lift.425 lobe separation 110.

>>I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
E-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33614QQitemZ8042190233QQrdZ1

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>
> Tim K.

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
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64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Daytona convert.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Hawk
53 coupe rod.

Bob40 - 02 Mar 2006 04:29 GMT
Would that be more compatible with a smaller bore engine? I am rebuilding a
224 and want a hotter cam but am thinking Teds cam might be a bit much.

Bob40

>> I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
E-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33614QQitemZ8042190233QQrdZ1

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> Tim K.
Alex Magdaleno - 02 Mar 2006 05:45 GMT
I would think it would be about right for a 224. It's getting a little
pricey though. I wonder if it is really new or a regrind? Doesn't look like
an old NOS box. Did Isky ever sell new cams for Studebakers?

> Would that be more compatible with a smaller bore engine? I am rebuilding
> a 224 and want a hotter cam but am thinking Teds cam might be a bit much.
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>>
>> Tim K.
John Poulos - 02 Mar 2006 06:09 GMT
Yep, most everyone did back in the day.

> I would think it would be about right for a 224. It's getting a little
> pricey though. I wonder if it is really new or a regrind? Doesn't look like
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>>>
>>>Tim K.

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Mertz Racing - 02 Mar 2006 06:25 GMT
Watch your cam choice.A cam designed for a certain cubic inch range will
be more aggresive in a motor with less cubic inches, within the same
family of motors. And likewise,if it is installed in a motor with more
cubic inches than it was designed for,it will be lazy.
So whats hot for a 350 cubic inch motor might be TOO MUCH for a 283
cubic inch motor,and NOT ENUFF for a 400 cubic inch motor (all in the
small block bellybutton family of motors),paraphrasing a cam article in
a old Car Craft magazine article.
R W Hughes - 03 Mar 2006 06:22 GMT
> Watch your cam choice.A cam designed for a certain cubic inch range will
> be more aggresive in a motor with less cubic inches, within the same
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> small block bellybutton family of motors),paraphrasing a cam article in
> a old Car Craft magazine article.

I had a 232 with 259 heads (milled .125 to get the compression up) and
when I found the Daytona (R1) cam in the parts book I bought one and put
it in. Ran nice and smooth all the way up to 6500 with no torque at all
anywhere. I remeber the E4 as being a little more, in which case it
probably would not be a happy choice for a 224.
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Wizard of Oz - 03 Mar 2006 14:40 GMT
What would you suggest would be the best performance cam for the combination
of a 232 with 259 heads? Taking into consideration the heads being milled
and larger than stock valves, port work, better manifold, and larger carb
etc...

Wiz.

>> Watch your cam choice.A cam designed for a certain cubic inch range will
>> be more aggresive in a motor with less cubic inches, within the same
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> anywhere. I remeber the E4 as being a little more, in which case it
> probably would not be a happy choice for a 224.
Alex Magdaleno - 04 Mar 2006 05:40 GMT
I  wonder whether you would need bigger valves for a 232?  And you wouldn't
need a big carb. Get the smallest 4 barrel you can find and one of those
early aluminum manifolds that come up  on Ebay from time to time.

> What would you suggest would be the best performance cam for the
> combination of a 232 with 259 heads? Taking into consideration the heads
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>> anywhere. I remeber the E4 as being a little more, in which case it
>> probably would not be a happy choice for a 224.
Wizard of Oz - 04 Mar 2006 15:38 GMT
You mean like a 390scfm and the valves from a 259 standard head are big
enough?
Early, as in fits a WCFB?

Wiz.

>I  wonder whether you would need bigger valves for a 232?  And you wouldn't
>need a big carb. Get the smallest 4 barrel you can find and one of those
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>>> anywhere. I remeber the E4 as being a little more, in which case it
>>> probably would not be a happy choice for a 224.
R W Hughes - 05 Mar 2006 06:02 GMT
My 232 liked the bigger valves in the 259 head until I put the R1 cam
in. It also had a 600cfm AFB off of some Buick which worked just fine
once the car warmed up. Full throttle on a cold engine gave instant and
serious bog. Of course I was doing this in the early 60s. I also
discovered the oiling problem - extended running above 4000 rpm wound up
with all the oil up in the heads and not enough in the pan to protect
the rods.
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Wizard of Oz - 06 Mar 2006 01:06 GMT
I intend to put something similar into my lark to get it around while I
build up a serious HP engine. I'm not sure I will put a 600cfm but what will
work will work.

Wiz.

> My 232 liked the bigger valves in the 259 head until I put the R1 cam in.
> It also had a 600cfm AFB off of some Buick which worked just fine once the
> car warmed up. Full throttle on a cold engine gave instant and serious
> bog. Of course I was doing this in the early 60s. I also discovered the
> oiling problem - extended running above 4000 rpm wound up with all the oil
> up in the heads and not enough in the pan to protect the rods.
Lee Aanderud - 06 Mar 2006 01:07 GMT
I had an Isky cam put in my latest project... but it's of the Mopar series.

Lee

>I intend to put something similar into my lark to get it around while I
>build up a serious HP engine. I'm not sure I will put a 600cfm but what
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>> with all the oil up in the heads and not enough in the pan to protect the
>> rods.
Wizard of Oz - 06 Mar 2006 04:14 GMT
Hey Lee,

Do you mean you are working on a mopar or some sort of adaptation?

Wiz.

>I had an Isky cam put in my latest project... but it's of the Mopar series.
>
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>>> with all the oil up in the heads and not enough in the pan to protect
>>> the rods.
Lee Aanderud - 06 Mar 2006 13:45 GMT
I'm having a 331 Hemi rebuilt to drop in my '62 Lark convertible.

Lee

> Hey Lee,
>
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>>>> up with all the oil up in the heads and not enough in the pan to
>>>> protect the rods.
Oujdeivß - 06 Mar 2006 13:56 GMT
You're just trying to attract some flames, right?

Not enough arguing over the weekend?

;)

p.d.

> I'm having a 331 Hemi rebuilt to drop in my '62 Lark convertible.
>
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GTtim - 02 Mar 2006 04:00 GMT
> I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
E-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33614QQitemZ8042190233QQrdZ1

The R2+ cam that I got from Ted has the following specs:
268 degrees duration
224 to 228 @ .050 lift
lift .447
I don't know what the seperation degrees is.

Tim K.
Jim Turner - 02 Mar 2006 06:50 GMT
That's the same grind that I have in my 52 ragtop, 289 with a new AFB.
Not too radical, but does have a lope at idle.
I sent in a cam to Isky and had them grind it. IIRC it was $60, but that
was about 7-8 years ago too!

Jim
blacklarkviii - 02 Mar 2006 10:18 GMT
Looking at the spec card it looks to be a little lumper than the standard r1
r2 cam.

Henry
>    I wonder how this cam compares to the Avanti cams we use.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-289-Isky-Iskenderian-cam-camshaft-new-
E-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33614QQitemZ8042190233QQrdZ1
ceecab - 02 Mar 2006 15:19 GMT
Several years ago I came across an ex=show circuit 57 Hawk that some dimwit
had cut up, but I managed to salvage a brass dash plaque from Isky with
those specs etched on it

It's on the firewall of my '55 now
mebbee I should buy the cam that goes with it
On another note about that Hawk
It had a complete white Speedster interior in it
One seat was broken but the upholstery was like new
Somebody had already claimed it though
Mike - 02 Mar 2006 19:53 GMT
That is a "very" mild cam ladies and gentlemen.
216 degrees at .050 - on the edge of mild, low to low mid rpm
110 lobe center - very good, all rpm, better as rpm increases
.425 lift (minus the lash) - mild, low rpm

This would be a grocery getter cam in a 289, not much more in a
259..........and "maybe" (like others have said), because of the lobe
center angle....a nice cam for a 224 engine.

Mike
 
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