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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / March 2006

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63t-cab - 19 Mar 2006 16:03 GMT
want to know the procedure in (complete) on installing new pistons to
the origional connecting rods,step by step.this is for a V8.
Gordon Richmond - 19 Mar 2006 16:20 GMT
>want to know the procedure in (complete) on installing new pistons to
>the origional connecting rods,step by step.this is for a V8.

Not that I'm a smartass, but this is why they have shop manuals.

Engine shops often get tripped up on this procedure, if they aren't familiar with
Studebakers. There is a right way and a wrong way of dealing with the wrist pin pinch
bolt, and the rods must be installed facing the right way.

I've overhauled a few V8s now, and I always refer to the shop manual. This can be crucial
stuff, and it's not wise to trust one's memory.

You can get a shop manual from many of the Stude vendors. There is a list of vendors on
the SDC website, and the major vendors nearly always have display ads in the back of
Turning Wheels. SASCO and Studebaker International are but two of the largest.

Manuals can also be found on eBay.

Maybe someone who has a manual at hand will post the procedure, but if you're going to
overhaul an engine, you really, really should have a manual.

Gord Richmond
Alex Magdaleno - 19 Mar 2006 18:13 GMT
Does the shop manual mention the trick of rapping the end of that pinch bolt
with a drift and hammer, and then retighten the nut?

> >want to know the procedure in (complete) on installing new pistons to
>>the origional connecting rods,step by step.this is for a V8.
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> Gord Richmond
kelmbaker@msn.com - 19 Mar 2006 19:15 GMT
No Alex. The shop manual doesn't. When rebuilding the "R" engine I did
a couple of years ago, I wanted the machinist to know all he could,
since he never rebuilt a Stude before. I had him call Ted Harbit and
Ted gave him several tips. One was tapping the pinch bolt while
tightening to 25 ft lbs (if memory serves). Well he got a extra 5 or 6
"tightens" before he reached the required torque. This was something we
would have never known. He wouldn't have reused the pal nuts on the rod
bolts. But Ted told him they are required (this is covered in the
manual). Dick Dotson's book covers several oiling mods that are great
at helping oil return to the pan. This helps keep oil pressure
consistant and are easy to do. Even the chief engineer (I believe
Sparrow) wrote a SAE paper outlining some problems with the oil system.
They didn't present themselves on everyday engines, but are a problem
with warmed over engines like a lot of guys are building. Stude shop
manual are excellent in comparison with many others, but practical
mechanics with tons of experience like Ted and D.D. have a lot of good
advice. Buy Dick Dotson's severe engine book. lots of great stuff for
little $$$$

Just my 2 cents

Kelly
Michael - Roseland FL - 19 Mar 2006 20:22 GMT
Do what I did on the R4 and just go to full floating piston pins and
you don't have to worry about the pinch pin :)
63t-cab - 20 Mar 2006 00:15 GMT
Thanks Alex,that is exactly what I wanted to here about the pinch
bolt,it was fuzzy but I remember my father being told that and passing
on to me.just needed to re-train the brain again,i know that was'nt
done when the shop re-built the engine,it's still on the engine stand
and will be addressed as needed.    Joe.
 
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