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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / April 2006

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George - 02 Apr 2006 02:32 GMT
Ok, between rain showers this afternoon, I looked where Keith said the
engine id should be..
And yep, it was there.. (51 Champion 6cyl)
I have  a couple of questions that hopefully someone can answer.
The stamped id # is N336172CAL
Below that is a metal tag that says;
Do not remove this plate.
This is engine #536332
Order parts from special engine
(can't read)(rubbed off) in current parts list.
What does this mean? Has the engine been replaced in this car?
George
Transtar60 - 02 Apr 2006 02:50 GMT
> Ok, between rain showers this afternoon, I looked where Keith said the
> engine id should be..
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What does this mean? Has the engine been replaced in this car?
> George

sure sounds like it George.
N336172CAL sounds like an assigned VIN # by the state of california.
Cant find that engine part# in 59-64 chassis parts book, must be from
1955-58???
keith_kichefski@wed.dresser.com - 02 Apr 2006 12:33 GMT
George;
You lucky dog <g> A 536332 is a factory replacement 185, which was sold
for earlier cars which originally had a 169.  The reason I happen to
know this, is I have  a N.O.S. one sitting in a crate for future use.
As it was told to me, the 536332 had one odd adjustment, in that the
camshaft gear to crankshaft gear was set one tooth off the mark.  This
was to reduce the power somewhat in order to keep the clutch from
slipping. A somewhat smaller clutch was used in the 1954 and prior
cars.  As you probably know the 185 was used in 1955-58 models.  I
believe there was another kit to go along with the long block, which
contained an oil pan (needed because of the larger main bearings) and a
different sheet metal plate, for between the block and bell housing.
I would agree that the CAL engine number was added later.  When the
long blocks were new, the pad was left blank, so you could stamp in
your original number.
The 536332 is minus the head, pan, manifolds and accessories.  It did
include the timing gear cover, vibration damper and pulley.

KK

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> Ok, between rain showers this afternoon, I looked where Keith said the
> engine id should be..
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What does this mean? Has the engine been replaced in this car?
> George
George - 02 Apr 2006 16:44 GMT
Hi Keith,
Wow, thanks for the information.. This is my wife's project car.. When
she deside on a Studebaker.. It had to be a bulletnose, and an
automatic..
Having never driven the smaller six with an automatic I was wondering
about the power it had (or lack of).
This is good news..
Thank you,
George
Grants Pass, Or.
keith_kichefski@wed.dresser.com - 02 Apr 2006 18:34 GMT
If you ever need to replace that front crankshaft felt seal, check the
marks on those timing gears.  Since the old pre-1954 D.G. Automatic (in
a Champion) started in second, you might get some extra free power, if
the marks are set correctly.  KK
 
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