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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / May 2006

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1st gear start FOM

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Pat Drnec - 04 May 2006 22:51 GMT
Saw the article in Turning Wheels about not starting in 1st - has anyone
experienced any problems with using the 1st gear start throttle bodies?

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Studebaker George - 05 May 2006 03:45 GMT
I'm surprised that nobody has responded to this post; due to my moving
I haven't gotten my latest Turning Wheels yet so I obviously haven't
read the article.  I geuss that many of the "usual suspects" are
heading for South Bend, also.  I had a 6 cylinder valve body laying
around so I stuck it in about eight months ago to get the first gear
start and also changed the governor a little later.  I haven't grenaded
the tranny yet, but IMHO the first gear start isn't all it's cracked up
to be and is a bit annoying due to the band application that occurs on
the downshift.  The upshift is fine.  When and if the tranny blows up I
have a 200 R4 to replace it with, but if I had it to do over again I
wouldn't bother with the valve body changeout.  If I ever wanted to do
the first gear start with a FOM again, I would do it the "right" way
and install the sprag and stuff to get rid of the pesky band apply
downshift.  I don't know if the 6 cylinder (up to 60) tranny has the
guts in it already; nobody has ever asked or answered that question and
someday I may take it apart to see for myself.  One more note; my
tranny "guru" said to loosen the band a little to help lessen the
"klunk" when it downshifts into first.  I haven't tried that yet.
Studebaker George
Wagonmaster - 06 May 2006 01:33 GMT
I'm a hot rod kind of guy, and when i want to run my 64-259 Auto thru
the gears to see what she'll do, I take off in L and run it up till its
time to shift into second, shift to drive and let it go into second,
then immediately shift back to low so it will stay in second as long as
i want and shift back to drive when it's wound out in second and it will
go into third.
So a first gear start valve body isn't that important to me. especially
since Sasco wants $350 for one.

Bob Whiten
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jeep4cyl@aol.com - 06 May 2006 14:20 GMT
I shifted my 57 Silver Hawk that way for years.  I got that info from
Andy Granitelli, durring one of his famous road tests.

I also jacked my timing ahead and ran Sunoco 260 gas in it.  Went like
H--L until I bunred a few valves.  I had the valves fixed, gooped the
heck out of the head gasket and bolted it back to gether.

I had my first race in that car.  I ran a 64 V8 Falcon down the local
Highshool Driveway, and back.  Hit the highway dropped her into low and
left sideways.  Beat the Falcon and left before the cops showed.

Oh the good old days.

Geno

64 R2 Avanti

64 Daytona Convertible
 
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