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'55 Prez on ebay
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fieronut@aol.com - 28 Jul 2006 04:34 GMT "http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-PRESIDENT-1955-CLASSIC-STUDEBAKER-PRES IDENT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6466QQihZ004QQitemZ140008014737QQrdZ 1"
Bought it for $500. Since it has 4 (supposedly) NOS fenders and the foglights, etc., should I just just strip it OR should I take a good ignition switch and a new battery up there and see what happens?
South Bend is a long way from San Antonio!
John
John Poulos - 28 Jul 2006 04:45 GMT Strip it at SASCO and shoot it in the head. You might at least break if you don't have to ship the rust west. You'll need more then a switch and a battery for a South Bend car. You'll need some plywood for the floors, all new brake and fuel lines, maybe a gas tank. To be honest, I wonder if you'll come out right side up on the car that far away.
> "http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-PRESIDENT-1955-CLASSIC-STUDEBAKER-PRES IDENT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6466QQihZ004QQitemZ140008014737QQrdZ 1" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > John
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Grumpy AuContraire - 28 Jul 2006 05:08 GMT The engine/tranny/rear axle, bumpers/grille and glass are the main items of value. The glass should be tinted (most Presidents were). Oh, and don't forget the real stabilizer bar but the brackets/bolts will probably be pretty rusty. The dash looks pretty good in the photo but... Are you planning on going to SB to strip it?
JT
> Strip it at SASCO and shoot it in the head. You might at least break if > you don't have to ship the rust west. You'll need more then a switch [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > 56 Power Hawk/4speed/289 > 51 Commander oldcarfart - 28 Jul 2006 13:52 GMT > "http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-PRESIDENT-1955-CLASSIC-STUDEBAKER-PRES IDENT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6466QQihZ004QQitemZ140008014737QQrdZ 1" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > John it would be cheaper to pay someone close (Lee D.?) to part it for you than to even spend the gas $$ to travel there.
Fieronut - 30 Jul 2006 02:00 GMT You all may be right--maybe it's just best to part it out. However, I enlarged the pix and it seems to me that all the significant rust is in the fenders--of which I have 4 news ones.
Without seeing it in person, it's hard to determing the frame, trunk or floor situation but I think I'll check it out in person before I make a decision. I have to be in that part of the country before the National anyway. Then if it's junk, I'll (or someone can) strip it and go from there.
Thanx for all the advice, however.
John
Lee - 30 Jul 2006 02:20 GMT John,
I am 90 miles from South Bend so, if you need someone to give it an eye, take pictures, or pick it up and store it til you are in the area, drop me a line and let me know.
Lee
>You all may be right--maybe it's just best to part it out. However, I >enlarged the pix and it seems to me that all the significant rust is in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >John Lee DeLaBarre Daytona62
fieronut@aol.com - 30 Jul 2006 04:33 GMT > John, > > I am 90 miles from South Bend so, if you need someone to give it an > eye, take pictures, or pick it up and store it til you are in the > area, drop me a line and let me know. Lee,
The guy told me that the tires would probably not make it to San Antonio but not sure about your place. However, I think I might want you to take it to your place and then we can decide what to do with it. Remember, it also has those 4 extra fenders to take with you.
When I pay this guy, I'll get an address for you. As of now, we are discussing title, etc, BEFORE I pay him. He says he has one but can't get a good scan......Also, after you get it, if you wouldn' t mind taking some CLEAR pix, that would be nice.
What do I owe you for the tow? Contact me at Fieronut at aol dot com.
Thanx, Lee.
John
John Poulos - 30 Jul 2006 04:45 GMT John I think you are being a tad optimitic about even a 90 mile drive, but Texas, you have to be joking. <g> ( I know South Bend cars, had enough rusted brake lines blow in my youth)
>>John, >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > John
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jerrystudebaker - 31 Jul 2006 01:54 GMT If it has significant rust is in the fenders then it also has significant rust is in a lot of other places. IMHO Jerry
> the fenders > You all may be right--maybe it's just best to part it out. However, I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > John John Poulos - 31 Jul 2006 02:24 GMT BTDT, you'll find there is no cowl left to bolt the front fenders to.
> If it has significant rust is in the fenders then it also has significant > rust is in a lot of other places. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >>John
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fieronut@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 15:08 GMT > BTDT, you'll find there is no cowl left to bolt the front fenders to. Cheap AC! ;-)
John
fieronut@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 15:14 GMT How-some-ever, the cowl is not the prob. This car was never transferred to the "ebay seller".
The "ebay seller" has a title from the prev owner showing he paid $1500 for the car, so if I DO fix it and register it in TX, will have to pay tax on $1500--AND--since it was never transferred to the "ebay seller", theoretically, I need to locate the PREV owner to sign the TX title application.
Suddenly, this is becoming a very complicated situation.
John
oldcarfart - 31 Jul 2006 18:08 GMT > How-some-ever, the cowl is not the prob. This car was never > transferred to the "ebay seller". [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > John Run Forrest! Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Poulos - 31 Jul 2006 19:27 GMT Just sign the PO'ers name on the title, unless you suspect something is amiss.
> How-some-ever, the cowl is not the prob. This car was never > transferred to the "ebay seller". [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > John
 Signature JP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1/AC gold 63 Avanti R1/AC Silver 63 Avanti R2/4 speed 62 Lark convert/4 speed 60 Lark convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 56 Power Hawk/4speed/289 51 Commander
fieronut@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 20:50 GMT > Just sign the PO'ers name on the title, unless you suspect something is > amiss. No, I think it's probably OK but the "ebay seller" says he can get the previous OWNER to apply for a new title, then we can start WITHOUT the $1500 price AND there is a word crossed out. At the bottom of the title, it says, "If there are erasures, alterations, blah blah blah, etc....don't accept this title."
All in all, it just wasn't done right when the "ebay seller" bought the car and so I have to wait until it IS right. There is no hurry. Lee is gonna help me with it so everything will EVENTUALLY be OK.
John
Grumpy AuContraire - 31 Jul 2006 21:24 GMT > > Just sign the PO'ers name on the title, unless you suspect something is > > amiss. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > John Are you sure that it's worth the effort? Mark Frank has a couple of '55 Prez State sedans that are restorable without any of the bad rust issues...
JT
Grumpy AuContraire - 31 Jul 2006 21:22 GMT If the title is not signed, it is not clear and thus a way out regarding this auction. OTOH, In TX, a sig is a sig...
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JT
> How-some-ever, the cowl is not the prob. This car was never > transferred to the "ebay seller". [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > John fieronut@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 21:27 GMT > If the title is not signed, it is not clear and thus a way out regarding > this auction. OTOH, In TX, a sig is a sig... > > <G> The PO signed the title when the "ebay seller" bought it from him for $1500. BUT..he put $1500 as the selling price and crossed out a word. So for those 2 reasons, I'm gonna have them give me a new title. I really want the car, if for no other reason than the parts I get with it. But I have plenty of time. I'll wait until it's done right.
John
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