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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2006

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Ken Voigt's auction in SD

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Barry - 31 Jul 2006 14:38 GMT
I attempted to post this yesterday with a few pix & it never went through,
so here it is sans pix:

I decided to fly instead of investing 4 days of driving & gallons of
expensive diesel into a trip in which I may not buy anything. Returning in a
couple of months when the weather is cooler prior to the Int'l Meet would be
the best way to haul any cars I purchased. I got a buddy pass from my
cousin, & flew to Omaha, driving the rental car 200 mi to Armour on Thurs
afternoon. I arived at Ken's early on Friday morning to begin inspecting the
cars & parts. Had I not already been aware of the situation, I would have
been disappointed. The cars were all well picked over and many had severe
rust issues. Very few had even one good fender or door remaining. As
expected, C-K cars were in very short supply & were rough. He had enough
loose parts to waste a few hours of the auctioneers time, but most was on
the junky side & included about zip in the way of good C-K or Avanti stuff.
A scrap bidder had a standing offer of $75.00 on all of the near complete
vehicles, so opening bids had to be $80.00 unless the unit was very
incomplete. A good crowd of bidders, maybe 200 or more, in addition to the
i-net & phone bidders, was on hand on Sat morning and most stayed around,
enduring the 108 deg. heat until near the close of the sale, since the
sellers wisely saved the restored & good rebuilders for near the end. Thank
goodness Ken had plenty of shade trees, a nice breeze was blowing, & the
humidity was very low. It is a safe bet that many attendees went home with
sunburns.
Parts prices were dirt cheap for the most part, with some cheesy sedan body
parts going for $2.50 ea. One local scarfed up tons of marginal quality
sheetmetal to try to sell on ebay, even though he did not have a clue as to
what much of it was for. I promised Ken that I would not let anybody get
anything too cheap, & I tried to keep my word. Yvette VanDerbrink was a
well-organized, fast moving auctioneer well experienced in liquidating large
car collections, not to mention a real cutie, and did a great job. She has 2
more big sales coming up soon for MoPars & 409 Chebbies.
I bought a couple of trucks with solid cabs, one "M", & one "R" which I
will just take the cabs off of and part out at Ken's.
I also bought a 49 biz cpe. & a pair of '48-51 Starlight Coupe solid body
shells, a pair of solid 39 Commander sedan bodies; and 41 Pres. & 57 Hawk
parts cars, which are now on ebay(shameless plug). Most cost me only
$80.00-$150.00
ea.
 I bought about 6 pallets of small parts, 2 engines for about $10.00 ea.,
some bumpers, 6 transmissions, & a large pile of sheet metal parts. The
largest purchase I made was for the tractor w/forks & fr end loader. It was
a buy at $2500.00. I decided not to try to drive it home!
I was tempted to buy one of the good unrestored cars, which all went way
too cheap. His good original 41 Pres brought a
chintzy $4000.00, the '31 & 35 Dictator sedans sold for about $3K ea. A very
decent 38Pres sedan street rod project sold for less than $2k, and a 38
Commander sold for $2500. or so. A good buildable J-10 closed just under
$4K.
The stunning restored J-10 truck w/289 & a/c should have opened
at 20K, but closed at $17,250.00. The nice red 34 wrecker & the beautiful
red M ser 1/2 tn were both steals for around $6K. The 58 Mercedes which Ken
brought from Germany was stolen by a local for $1800.00.
I saw many people I knew, & met many new Studebaker enthusiasts & had a
great
time. Every aspect of the sale was conducted just as any who know Ken Voigt
would expect. I just feel the Studebaker community let him down a bit by
failing to bid up on his things or by not coming at all. I am glad I went &
am looking forward to returning.
Grumpy AuContraire - 31 Jul 2006 21:37 GMT
When are you going to go up and get your stuff??

JT

> I attempted to post this yesterday with a few pix & it never went through,
> so here it is sans pix:
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> failing to bid up on his things or by not coming at all. I am glad I went &
> am looking forward to returning.
Barry - 31 Jul 2006 22:18 GMT
Not sure, Jim. I hope to make one run sometime in Aug & another run the week
prior to the International, so I can
sell some of it at the meet. I need to check when some of the zone meets are
so I can make one or 2 of them while on the road to SD. My next trip will be
to Abilene to pick up 3 53-4 C-k's I bought.

Right now, I am looking for someone who needs a car hauled north from here
so I can get some help with fuel.
I am considering conversion to veg oil. I have a friend who is very happy
with his conversion. What do you think of it?

When R-U coming to see me?

--
Barry'd in Studes

58 Packard Hawk
40 President
39 Coupe Exp.
59 DeLuxe 1/2 tn.
56 Packard "400"

> When are you going to go up and get your stuff??
>
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> > failing to bid up on his things or by not coming at all. I am glad I went &
> > am looking forward to returning.
rkapteyn@ameritech.net - 01 Aug 2006 14:22 GMT
Barry
Someone told me that Ken was going to buy the stuff that went to cheap.
Does he stay in business?
How long can you keep the stuff there?
Did he get the property?
Sorry but I have not kept up with his sale.
I have been having health problems and have slowed to a crawl.
Thanks
Bob Kapteyn
Jeff Rice - 01 Aug 2006 14:43 GMT
Hope you get better and feel better soon!
Jeff

<Bob Kapteyn wrote:
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> I have been having health problems and have slowed to a crawl.
> Thanks
> Bob Kapteyn

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Barry - 01 Aug 2006 15:23 GMT
Sorry to hear of your health issues, Bob. I noticed that you were not
selling at SB this year.
I hope you get to feeling better!
Ken told me that he would still be selling a little, and he is keeping the
property. He is not going to let
any of the really good parts cars all go to the crusher.
I assume the Studes had to go in order to pay the wife off so he could keep
the property. He is a fine gentleman, and I wish him well. He did not sell
the stunning 35 Dictator coupe he restored for his son, who is now deployed
in Iraq.

--
Barry'd in Studes

58 Packard Hawk
40 President
39 Coupe Exp.
59 DeLuxe 1/2 tn.
56 Packard "400"

> Barry
> Someone told me that Ken was going to buy the stuff that went to cheap.
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> Thanks
> Bob Kapteyn
 
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