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Studebaker George - 01 Aug 2006 23:01 GMT Last night was the weirdest and lonliest night I have spent in years. Sitting in the shop with loaded guns by my side and nothing at all on except a small fan. Finally fell asleep around four and the crew up front woke me up when they fired their trucks at five. Tonight I may turn on EVERYTHING and tell the sheriff that I will be working all night. I have spent nights in the shop many times; once for almost a week while I tore out a wall and the power box at the house. Didn't bother me then but that was some time ago...and my dog at that time was fearless. Good news is that the phone line should be done tomorrow and the alarm company said they can install the system Thursday morning. Tonight and tomorrow should be the last nights of guard duty. Studebaker George
So. Ga. Cruiser - 01 Aug 2006 23:10 GMT George,
Sorry to hear of these troubles. It must produce an intense feeling of violation.
There's no better protection than a couple of good-sized, mildly aggressive dogs.
Dave Miller, South Ga. S.D.C. www.georgiastudebaker.com
> Last night was the weirdest and lonliest night I have spent in years. > Sitting in the shop with loaded guns by my side and nothing at all on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Tonight and tomorrow should be the last nights of guard duty. > Studebaker George TomNoller - 02 Aug 2006 01:09 GMT George - You need a cot in there! You'd be sleeping lightly, for sure.
jerrystudebaker - 02 Aug 2006 01:14 GMT A big Amen to that. We have a Mastiff/Lab mix that lives in my shop. He has full run of the shop, offices, and outside fenced in area. He is the sweetest little(125 lb) creature (a regular Dr. Jeckle) until Robert and I leave and lock the doors. Then he turn into a Mr. Hyde and when anyone tries to get in or even knocks on the door he tries to come through the door to get 'em. Haven't had a break-in for the last six years. Oddly enough, that's how long Buddy has been staying with us. In my building I have 5 overhead doors and 2 walk-in doors on one side and the double doors in the front then there's on walk-in door in the back that goes to the outside fenced-in area. All these doors stay wide open all day long (while we are there) and the only door Buddy will go through is the one leading to the fenced-in area. He'll lay in the middle of all the doors with his front paws and nose sticking out and sometimes his butt but he stays in the building. It's funny to sometimes see him laying in the middle of the 12 foot wide open fence gate with his front half outside the gate and the back half still inside the fence. J
> George, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> Tonight and tomorrow should be the last nights of guard duty. >> Studebaker George dwcars - 02 Aug 2006 01:24 GMT I don't know if the "Castle Doctrine" will cover you at the shop. We had a similar experience when we were tipped off about a break-in that was planned at our shop. Iat was supposed to take place around midnight by three guys in a box truck. We called the police to tell them what we heard and asked them to keep an eye on the shop. Tehy said ok. That evening, we went to the shop, parked inside, and sat there for 6 hours sweating in our beach chairs. We called the cops about 8 and retold our story to the new watch captain. We didn't see a cop car all night. About 3 min to midnight, a box truck pulled into our lot. We almost sh.t. My brother called the cops and told them that a truck had just pulled in also tellng them that we were armed and if anyone stuck their nose in the place, there were going to be bodies to clean up. The cop went ballistic when he heard we had guns and started preaching that we shouldn't have guns etc, etc, etc. The cops showed up in about 3 minutes. Lesson! Whenever you need a cop, tell them you have a gun. I had a fully restored 57 Chevy convertible with factory air conditioning was stolen from our shop in Charleston, SC some years back. They also took about $40,000 worth of ours and our employees tools. The thieves simply cut the phone wire and it was adios alarm system. The cops, their detectives, and the state troopers did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!! They refused to take fingerprints from the car that was moved to gain access to the convert claiming that the prints would be worthless unless they belonged to someone who had been printed within the previous 6 nonths. We were given a tag number, a vehicle description, and physical description of a person who tried to buy a rebuild kit for one of the paint guns that was stolen. Again, they did absolutely nothing. They claimed that they couldn't find the vehicle. I guess that's what licence tags and registrations are for. I'll bet they really looked hard (out the window of the donut shop while sucking coffee). Cops, they've never done anything positive for me im my 66 years on this planet!
> Last night was the weirdest and lonliest night I have spent in years. > Sitting in the shop with loaded guns by my side and nothing at all on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Tonight and tomorrow should be the last nights of guard duty. > Studebaker George Dave's Place - 02 Aug 2006 01:50 GMT >Cops, they've never done anything positive for me im my 66 > years on this planet! Cops have a very good sense for who they are dealing with.
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rkapteyn@ameritech.net - 02 Aug 2006 02:11 GMT George. I know that there are good cops and bad ones. When I was run over by some thugs that were dumping parts from a chop shop on my propperty the Joliet Police refused to investigate because they do not investigate traffic accidents. We claimed it was attempted murder and if I would not have been close to the hospital and the good doctor at the emergency room would not have been able to bring me back to life,it would have been murder. We had to keep calling the police and no action. The parts of stolen cars that were dumped here had VIN numbers on them. No one ever came to look at them or try to lift prints. Look at all the cop shows on TV. They feed us a steady diet of bull that the authorities are on the ball,investigate crimes and bring the wrong doers to justice. Look at all the TV shows and think about what they want to show us. Think independently a be critical of the propaganda diet.
midlant@earthlink.net - 02 Aug 2006 07:46 GMT Try running for office on the platform of raising taxes to get enough staff to actually go after the baddys. Bet the only people who would vote for you are those who have been hit in the past few years and a few pof their friends. That would include me.
The son of a friend of mine was on the force that covered Boirmingham, the second largest city in England. One night there was only one bobby covering the whole northern half of the city!
Karl
> George. > I know that there are good cops and bad ones. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Look at all the TV shows and think about what they want to show us. > Think independently a be critical of the propaganda diet. markshere2 - 02 Aug 2006 12:55 GMT That was then. Merry Old England has deteriorated .. A lot.
At least from the news reports. The only people that seem to get prosecuted and punished are the ones that actually stand up to the rat packs of criminals.
I liked England, but I would never want to live there.
Mark (Happiness is a loaded gun) Dunning
by "midlant@earthlink.net" <midlant@earthlink.net> Aug 1, 2006 at 11:46 PM
Try running for office on the platform of raising taxes to get enough staff to actually go after the baddys. Bet the only people who would vote for you are those who have been hit in the past few years and a few pof their friends. That would include me.
The son of a friend of mine was on the force that covered Boirmingham, the second largest city in England. One night there was only one bobby covering the whole northern half of the city!
Karl
Grumpy AuContraire - 02 Aug 2006 14:29 GMT Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets the short end of that stick...
JT
(Sleeping well in TX)
> That was then. Merry Old England has deteriorated .. A lot. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Karl Bigbob62 - 02 Aug 2006 16:09 GMT How in the world do you hold Bush responsible for the Aussies and Canadians "taking guns away from law abiding citizens"?
I know they have much stricter laws on registration, but does that REALLY equate with "taking them away"? When you say that, I think of the Nazi's marching up, kicking in the door and confiscating EVERY weapon they can find.
Bob (yeah, I'm armed and dangerous, too...but I'm not paranoid about it!)
> Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding > masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > > > Karl Jeff Rice - 02 Aug 2006 19:37 GMT Bob, You are getting paranoid <lol>.. When he typed GB, he meant Great Britain, not George Bush <lol>...
"Bigbob62" wrote...
> How in the world do you hold Bush responsible for the Aussies and > Canadians "taking guns away from law abiding citizens"? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Bob (yeah, I'm armed and dangerous, too...but I'm not paranoid about > it!)
>> Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding >> masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets >> the short end of that stick...
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Grumpy AuContraire - 03 Aug 2006 00:57 GMT Tank Yew Jeffy!!!
JT
> Bob, You are getting paranoid <lol>.. > When he typed GB, he meant Great Britain, not George Bush <lol>... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com jerrystudebaker - 03 Aug 2006 03:33 GMT That's funny Jeff. After I read BigBob's post I reread all the previous postings on this thread three times and never could figure out how Bob got Bush's name into it. Guess I'm just aint as smart as some ou youse guys. J
> Bob, You are getting paranoid <lol>.. > When he typed GB, he meant Great Britain, not George Bush <lol>... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets >>> the short end of that stick... Gordon Richmond - 03 Aug 2006 01:52 GMT >Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding >masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >(Sleeping well in TX) Canada has not actually confiscated any guns, AFAIK, except of course in the ordinary run of police work, where say, they do a drug bust, and find weapons as well as narcotics. Same thing as happens Stateside, I'm sure.
Our present government has pledged to end the hated long-gun registry, and I do believe they will do it. They have already starved it for money, budget-wise. Handguns have been registered since the early '30s, and nobody is too exercised about that.
Britain, OTOH, did confiscate a slew of firearms. I'm sure they only got the "legal" ones, though.
Gord Richmond
Grumpy AuContraire - 03 Aug 2006 03:06 GMT > >Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding > >masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Gord Richmond You can own a handgun up thar?
JT
Gordon Richmond - 03 Aug 2006 06:36 GMT >> >Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding >> >masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >JT Yes. I could get one if I really wanted one. Join a target shooting club, get a firearms acquisition licence, take a gun safety course, yada, yada.
Used to be, if you held a free miner's certificate, you could carry a handgun in the bush for bear protection. That has pretty much gone by the board. But one can still legally own a handgun. Of course, if you are a criminal, no pesky licences are required.
Thing is, one cannot claim "protection" as a reason for wanting to get a handgun. One has to have a reason to own one, and permissible reasons are basically either being a bona-fide collector, or being a target shooter.
I don't think the government has ANY clue as to how many black market handguns there are in the country, other than every gang-banger they arrest seems to have one. I'm sure if I wanted a black-market pistol, I could get hold of one in a few days for a few hundred bucks.
Gord Richmond
midlant@earthlink.net - 03 Aug 2006 03:23 GMT A friend of mine in the pellet-gun business in England mentioned that most gun deaths are from shotguns, now.
Karl
Karl
> >Good ol' GB, Australia 'n Canada took the guns away from the law abiding > >masses so now only the cops and lawbreakers have guns. Guess who gets [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Gord Richmond leton@cfl.rr.com - 03 Aug 2006 03:53 GMT When will people in the USA learn, Law Enforcement's purpose is to protect the local government and it's property from citizens. It is not to protect the citizen. Speeding on a city street will get you a ticket. If someone speeds across your lawn, you are instructed to take that up with your insurance company. Your insurance company treats you like you pawned everything and now want to be compensated for not getting what it was worth from the pawn shop. LAW ENFORCEMENT is a complete contradiction in terms as there are too many laws on the books that the local cops, the attorneys, and even the judges can't determine what to do--so they do very little or pass the buck. A friend had a bass boat stolen from his yard. On a home video camera security tape we watched as a fellow cut the chain that was secured to a ring in the concrete drive, hook the trailer to the back of his pickup, all this with a beautiful shot of the liscense plate, and then drive away. The cops reply was we can't use this as evidence. Today if you shoot a fellow in the foot, that's poor gun control and you may end up supporting him for the rest of his life. If you shoot him in the a$$, his attorney will claim brain damage and you will support his whole family forever. IF you shoot him in the body or head, the local cops will think that you really wanted to do him harm, took your time,[ took a tranquilizer] took careful aim ....well that's premedicated...or premeditated...OOOOM....OOOMM. A shotgun works better, BUT IS A LOT MORE WORK TO CLEAN UP THE MESS. A 22 caliber doesn't wake up the neighbors, a phone call will if you need help loading the body. A 22 caliber makes a small hole, therefore the blood can be cleaned up with carburator cleaner and covered with motor oil. It's always handy to have a fan blade with some blood spots or a hood lock mechanisim laying around with maybe some skin and hair on it. Just for DNA testing ...honest. I just have two questions... In the case of a death sentence.. why do we sterilize the needle before giving a leathal injection ? Is it because we don't want someone to die by accident, or is it because we really want to kill someone. Therefore if they die from infection, we will feel slighted ? Next question...Why do I not have the right to remain silent untill after I'm arrested and does this apply to deaf mutes as well ?? Do we as Americans or illegals what ever the case may be, NOT have rights untill we are arrested ? It's the hard questions that make my head hurt. John E. A 45 makes a big beautiful hole you can put your finger in and say [ whatever is appropriate]
58packardwagon - 02 Aug 2006 07:03 GMT My dad always taught me one thing for protection. The gun can never be big enough.
Robert Black - 02 Aug 2006 11:40 GMT There are definitly many good,hard working cops out there. But this crystal meth sh.t that were dealing with now is a curse straight from hell. Ive done my share of recreational drugs in the past,the one that got me in the most trouble was good old alcohol. But Im some glad I never was tempted by this crap.The addicts will do ANYTHING to get the money for more,and yes,a 12 gauge pump is the best protection(automatics can jam)
> My dad always taught me one thing for protection. The gun can never be > big enough.
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