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John Poulos - 07 Aug 2006 04:09 GMT http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown
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Alex Magdaleno - 07 Aug 2006 06:31 GMT Here's some more bad news
http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 12:30 GMT But, what of the unreported destruction? How many people died for that oil? Did they receive notice to evacuate before the meteor hit? Where was the oil before it leaked into the rubble? Might be a good idea to look 'next' to the hole there. And the article you cite... Look at the original source, and the internet publishing vehicle used to put this info out there.... http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm Preaching at it's finest!
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> Here's some more bad news > http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html
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Gordon Richmond - 07 Aug 2006 15:54 GMT >But, what of the unreported destruction? Untold numbers of unlucky dinosaurs took a dirt nap.
>How many people died for that oil? Maybe a few inthe construction crews?
>Did they receive notice to evacuate before the meteor hit? Naw, Bush kept it a secret.
>Where was the oil before it leaked into the rubble? In the shale sediments in the Gulf basin.
>Might be a good idea to look 'next' to the hole there. I'm sure it's being done.
>And the article you cite... >Look at the original source, and the internet publishing vehicle used to put >this info out there.... >http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm >Preaching at it's finest! Actually, I looked, Jeff. It appears to be a Christian site that rejects the silly notion of Young-Earth Creationism, in favor of the standard geological theory. Kind of refreshing, actually.
Gord Richmond (geologist, dontcha know)
>"Alex Magdaleno" wrote... >> Here's some more bad news >> http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html Alex Magdaleno - 07 Aug 2006 17:47 GMT So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they predicted is happening now. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story
I predict $5 a gallon oil within a few years.
> But, what of the unreported destruction? > How many people died for that oil? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Here's some more bad news >> http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html Lee Aanderud - 07 Aug 2006 17:55 GMT > So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they > predicted is happening now. > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story > > I predict $5 a gallon oil within a few years. Hopefully just in Kalifornia.
Gosh... you're a regular Carnac the Magnificent. Didn't your great grandfather once predict nickel/gallon gas would one day cost a quarter/gallon?
Lee
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Bigbob62 - 07 Aug 2006 18:17 GMT $5 a gallon oil? Lemme see...there are 40 gals in a barrel and a barrel is now selling for roughly $75. If you meant $5/gal of GAS, I'll agree that we're probably only a few years away from that...but $200/barrel?
BTW..what happened to the good old 55 gal oil drum measurement...and where did the other 15 gal per barrel go?
Bob
> So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they > predicted is happening now. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Mark Dunning - 07 Aug 2006 22:11 GMT OK your math just escaped me
$3.00 gal at $70/BBL = 23.333
compares to
$5.00 gal at $116.667 = 23.333 So the cost per barrel (all things being the same, which they won't be) is $117, not $200
I KNOW it ain't exactly the right way to calculate it, but at least I'm trying...........
Mark ( show me the numbers) Dunning
> $5 a gallon oil? Lemme see...there are 40 gals in a barrel and a > barrel is now selling for roughly $75. If you meant $5/gal of GAS, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> > -- >> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Bigbob62 - 08 Aug 2006 00:27 GMT I was referring to the (mis) statment of $5/gal of oil (not gas). If that were true, then $5 x 40 gal/barrel = $200 /barrel for oil. Since you're using $70/barrel for oil, that means almost triple the price...I'm too tired to calculate the exact number, but triple is close enough for me.
I saw $2.91 for Reg Unleaded on the way home...$3.01 for 89 Octane and 3.11 for 93!!
Sure is making that Turbo PT Cruiser look good with it's 29mpg highway.
Bob
> OK your math just escaped me > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 18:41 GMT What a courageous prediction! I'll stay a little more short term. It will get dark out tonight for HALF the world! And it will happen again if we don't do something about it right now! C'mon Alex.... Relax, have fun with your Stude and don't sweat the small stuff. Jeff
"Alex Magdaleno" wrote..
> So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they > predicted is happening now. > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story > I predict $5 a gallon oil within a few years.
> "Jeff Rice" wrote... >> But, what of the unreported destruction? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm >> Preaching at it's finest!
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Bigbob62 - 07 Aug 2006 19:33 GMT Dang Jeff, you'r estarting to sound like a weatherman on TV!
"Dark tonight, followed by daylight tomorrow! "
Or, here in Texas....
"Hot today, hot tomorrow...periods of slightly cooler weather predicted for nighttime hours!"
Damn, I'm tired of sweating!
BTW...I broke down and bought a new "Lawn Maintenance Machine" last week and finally got to use it over the weekend. It's a Cub Cadet ZTR mower and that thing is a grass-eating MONSTER!! Where it used to take (previously uncounted hours becaus eit had to be spread over two or more days to mow my place, I can now mow it all in 4 hours!!
I told Trish we had to always refer to it as a "Lawn Maintenance Machine" because NO LAWN MOWER should cost more than I've spent on hotrod parts in a year!! I was whimpering like a little bi*ch at the checkout line when they rang it up, but for the first time in over a year, I've done mowing and my shoulders don't feel like someone has stuck red-hot pokers into both joints!
Not only does that thing cut grass like Dave Lester accelerating on a highway on-ramp, it does it with almost no effort and the stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot easier on my bad shoulders!
Bob
> What a courageous prediction! > I'll stay a little more short term. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm > >> Preaching at it's finest! Loy Daniel - 08 Aug 2006 00:05 GMT Keep practicing and you might get a shot at 'stick-steering' Trigger. <grin>
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> stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot > easier on my bad shoulders! > > Bob
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Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:20 GMT > Keep practicing and you might get a shot at 'stick-steering' Trigger. > <grin> I've done that! <GGGG>
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Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:19 GMT > Not only does that thing cut grass like Dave Lester accelerating on a > highway on-ramp, it does it with almost no effort and the > stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot > easier on my bad shoulders! You are slow, Grasshopper. I purchased a Dixon ZTR 15 years ago. Still using the same Dixon, all these years later. Ya gits what ya pay for! I can rack my shoulder doing something else, and still mow the acreage in half the time, and half the pain! <G>
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me@notanywhere.net - 08 Aug 2006 02:04 GMT On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:35:26 -0700, you wrote:
>I predict $5 a gallon oil within a few years. wait 6 months or less and see the price of flour products OR beef..
farmers here are selling cows ASAP.. no water.. California had 25,000 or more die-that made the news.. whats happening from Kansas north to Minnesota isnt being said YET, other than wheat crop is off 30%
--Shiva--
jerrystudebaker - 08 Aug 2006 03:39 GMT That's okay with me. It's the cows and all that methane they produce that's causing the 'global warming'. I say "Kill all the cows and the hole in the ozone will close up and then we can start wearing more clothing" 'cause it's gonna get cold. JF
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:35:26 -0700, you wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > --Shiva-- Barry - 08 Aug 2006 03:56 GMT Hee hee!!
> That's okay with me. It's the cows and all that methane they produce that's > causing the 'global warming'. I say "Kill all the cows and the hole in the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > --Shiva-- Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:21 GMT > farmers here are selling cows ASAP.. no water.. Gee, I didn't realize Kalifornia actually had cattle... I just figured they used everybody else's.
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Paul Villforth - 07 Aug 2006 09:29 GMT I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+ bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and extraction methods were perfected in the 1980's. The article indicated that a number of US companies were drilling and expected to begin extraction within the next two years. Based upon the article, Colorado oil reserves are supposed to exceed all of the known reserves in the world. Seeing is believing Paul V
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 12:24 GMT They (the oil guys) know that. They know where most all of the oil is. But why use up your own 'easy to get' oil up when there is 'easy to get' oil available somewhere else. They think long term rather than next (re)election cycle. If they do nothing,the oil will still be there 50, 100, 200 years from now. Long after the desert sources will be used up and those places will be vastly overpopulated slums. Oh, wait. They are slums now. Looks like the oil money sure helped their places.... I'm sure the environmentalists (socialists) would find an endangered shale snail to prevent them flattening a shale mountain for money (oil) Jeff
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>I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+ >bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Seeing is believing > Paul V
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Bill Glass - 07 Aug 2006 14:53 GMT That was discovered back in the 50's and 60's, problem was back then, they did not have the technology, then in the 70's during the fuel crisis they revisted the shale oil and they finally came up with a method of getting the oil out, but it was too expensive. Now twenty some odd years later, with the cost of a barrel skyrockeing, it has become cost effective, IF oil stays at these or higher prices.
I dont know how it would impact the enviorment, but from what I understand, the land is not inhabitable as in unstable.
Just sit back and see how things progress. I am afraid that the use of the land will be ruled off limits. Somebody would rather build a ski resort rather than fuel the country.
Bill
>I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+ >bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and >extraction methods were perfected in the 1980's. The article indicated that John Poulos - 07 Aug 2006 15:09 GMT If oil stays at $70 a barrel or goes higher, they'll go after that shale oil. BTW, you don't "drill" for shale oil, nor is it oil. It's organic material trapped in rock that is converted to oil. It's expensive and energy intensive to extract.
> I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+ > bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown
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midlant@earthlink.net - 08 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT It comes down to that the amount of oil recoverable includes being able to make a profit. (Or win a war, in the case of Hitler.)
Gord should be able to explain it, but I think that money enters into it somewhere along the line. <g> Karl
> If oil stays at $70 a barrel or goes higher, they'll go after that shale > oil. BTW, you don't "drill" for shale oil, nor is it oil. It's organic [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > 52 Starliner > 51 Commander Jim Caldwell - 08 Aug 2006 22:46 GMT I remember hunting in Colorado and sitting around a campfire when the rocks surrounding the fire pit started burning. A very large plant was built northwest of Rifle, Colorado for extraction purposes but the process was too expensive at the time. I wonder if they have re-opened that plant.
> It comes down to that the amount of oil recoverable includes being able > to make a profit. [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > 52 Starliner > > 51 Commander
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