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John Poulos - 07 Aug 2006 04:09 GMT
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Alex Magdaleno - 07 Aug 2006 06:31 GMT
Here's some more bad news

http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html

> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown
Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 12:30 GMT
But, what of the unreported destruction?
How many people died for that oil?
Did they receive notice to evacuate before the meteor hit?
Where was the oil before it leaked into the rubble?
Might be a good idea to look 'next' to the hole there.
And the article you cite...
Look at the original source, and the internet publishing vehicle used to put
this info out there....
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm
Preaching at it's finest!

"Alex Magdaleno" wrote...
> Here's some more bad news
> http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html

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Gordon Richmond - 07 Aug 2006 15:54 GMT
>But, what of the unreported destruction?

Untold numbers of unlucky dinosaurs took a dirt nap.

>How many people died for that oil?

Maybe a few inthe construction crews?

>Did they receive notice to evacuate before the meteor hit?

Naw, Bush kept it a secret.

>Where was the oil before it leaked into the rubble?

In the shale sediments in the Gulf basin.

>Might be a good idea to look 'next' to the hole there.

I'm sure it's being done.

>And the article you cite...
>Look at the original source, and the internet publishing vehicle used to put
>this info out there....
>http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm
>Preaching at it's finest!

Actually, I looked, Jeff. It appears to be a Christian site that rejects the silly notion
of Young-Earth Creationism, in favor of the standard geological theory. Kind of
refreshing, actually.

Gord Richmond (geologist, dontcha know)

>"Alex Magdaleno" wrote...
>> Here's some more bad news
>> http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html
Alex Magdaleno - 07 Aug 2006 17:47 GMT
So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they
predicted is happening now.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story

I predict $5 a gallon oil within  a few years.

> But, what of the unreported destruction?
> How many people died for that oil?
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>> Here's some more bad news
>> http://www.energybulletin.net/1651.html
Lee Aanderud - 07 Aug 2006 17:55 GMT
> So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they
> predicted is happening now.
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story
>
> I predict $5 a gallon oil within  a few years.

Hopefully just in Kalifornia.

Gosh... you're a regular Carnac the Magnificent.  Didn't your great
grandfather once predict nickel/gallon gas would one day cost a
quarter/gallon?

Lee

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Bigbob62 - 07 Aug 2006 18:17 GMT
$5 a gallon oil?  Lemme see...there are 40 gals in a barrel and a
barrel is now selling for roughly $75.  If you meant $5/gal of GAS,
I'll agree that we're probably only a few years away from that...but
$200/barrel?

BTW..what happened to the good old 55 gal oil drum measurement...and
where did the other 15 gal per barrel go?

Bob

> So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they
> predicted is happening now.
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Mark Dunning - 07 Aug 2006 22:11 GMT
OK your math just escaped me

$3.00 gal at $70/BBL = 23.333

compares to

$5.00 gal at $116.667 = 23.333
So the cost per barrel (all things being the same, which they won't be) is
$117, not $200

I KNOW it ain't exactly the right way to calculate it, but at least I'm
trying...........

Mark ( show me the numbers) Dunning

> $5 a gallon oil?  Lemme see...there are 40 gals in a barrel and a
> barrel is now selling for roughly $75.  If you meant $5/gal of GAS,
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Bigbob62 - 08 Aug 2006 00:27 GMT
I was referring to the (mis) statment of $5/gal of oil (not gas). If
that were true, then $5 x 40 gal/barrel = $200 /barrel for oil.  Since
you're using $70/barrel for oil, that means almost triple the
price...I'm too tired to calculate the exact number, but triple is
close enough for me.

I saw $2.91 for Reg Unleaded on the way home...$3.01 for 89 Octane and
3.11 for 93!!

Sure is making that Turbo PT Cruiser look good with it's 29mpg highway.

Bob

> OK your math just escaped me
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Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 18:41 GMT
What a courageous prediction!
I'll stay a little more short term.
It will get dark out tonight for HALF the world!
And it will happen again if we don't do something about it right now!
C'mon Alex.... Relax, have fun with your Stude and don't sweat the small
stuff.
Jeff

"Alex Magdaleno" wrote..
> So your saying it won't happen? That article is two years old. What they
> predicted is happening now.
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pemex24jul24,1,6754747.story
> I predict $5 a gallon oil within  a few years.

> "Jeff Rice" wrote...
>> But, what of the unreported destruction?
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>> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm
>> Preaching at it's finest!

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Bigbob62 - 07 Aug 2006 19:33 GMT
Dang Jeff, you'r estarting to sound like a weatherman on TV!

"Dark tonight, followed by daylight tomorrow! "

Or, here in Texas....

"Hot today, hot tomorrow...periods of slightly cooler weather predicted
for nighttime hours!"

Damn, I'm tired of sweating!

BTW...I broke down and bought a new "Lawn Maintenance Machine" last
week and finally got to use it over the weekend. It's a Cub Cadet ZTR
mower and that thing is a grass-eating MONSTER!!  Where it used to take
(previously uncounted hours becaus eit had to be spread over two or
more days to mow my place, I can now mow it all in 4 hours!!

I told Trish we had to always refer to it as a "Lawn Maintenance
Machine" because NO LAWN MOWER should cost more than I've spent on
hotrod parts in a year!!  I was whimpering like a little bi*ch at the
checkout line when they rang it up, but for the first time in over a
year, I've done mowing and my shoulders don't feel like someone has
stuck red-hot pokers into both joints!

Not only does that thing cut grass like Dave Lester accelerating on a
highway on-ramp, it does it with almost no effort and the
stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot
easier on my bad shoulders!

Bob

> What a courageous prediction!
> I'll stay a little more short term.
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> >> http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm
> >> Preaching at it's finest!
Loy Daniel - 08 Aug 2006 00:05 GMT
Keep practicing and you might get a shot at 'stick-steering' Trigger.
<grin>

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> stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot
> easier on my bad shoulders!
>
> Bob

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Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:20 GMT
> Keep practicing and you might get a shot at 'stick-steering' Trigger.
> <grin>

I've done that!  <GGGG>
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Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:19 GMT
> Not only does that thing cut grass like Dave Lester accelerating on a
> highway on-ramp, it does it with almost no effort and the
> stick-steering is pretty easy to get used to ...and one hell of a lot
> easier on my bad shoulders!

You are slow, Grasshopper.  I purchased a Dixon ZTR 15 years ago.  Still
using the same Dixon, all these years later.  Ya gits what ya pay for!  I
can rack my shoulder doing something else, and still mow the acreage in half
the time, and half the pain!  <G>
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me@notanywhere.net - 08 Aug 2006 02:04 GMT
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:35:26 -0700,  you wrote:

>I predict $5 a gallon oil within  a few years.
wait 6 months or less and see the price of flour products OR
beef..

farmers here are selling cows ASAP.. no water..
California had 25,000 or more die-that made the news.. whats
happening from Kansas north to Minnesota isnt being said YET,
other than wheat crop is off 30%

    --Shiva--
jerrystudebaker - 08 Aug 2006 03:39 GMT
That's okay with me. It's the cows and all that methane they produce that's
causing the 'global warming'. I say "Kill all the cows and the hole in the
ozone will close up and then we can start wearing more clothing" 'cause it's
gonna get cold.
JF
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:35:26 -0700,  you wrote:
>
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>
>     --Shiva--
Barry - 08 Aug 2006 03:56 GMT
Hee hee!!

> That's okay with me. It's the cows and all that methane they produce that's
> causing the 'global warming'. I say "Kill all the cows and the hole in the
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> >
> >     --Shiva--
Dave's Place - 10 Aug 2006 04:21 GMT
>  farmers here are selling cows ASAP.. no water..

Gee, I didn't realize Kalifornia actually had cattle... I just figured they
used everybody else's.
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Paul Villforth - 07 Aug 2006 09:29 GMT
I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+
bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and
extraction methods were perfected in the 1980's. The article indicated that
a number of US companies were drilling and expected to begin extraction
within the next two years. Based upon the article, Colorado oil reserves are
supposed to exceed all of the known reserves in the world.
Seeing is believing
Paul V
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown
Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 12:24 GMT
They (the oil guys) know that.
They know where most all of the oil is.
But why use up your own 'easy to get' oil up when there is 'easy to get' oil
available somewhere else.
They think long term rather than next (re)election cycle.
If they do nothing,the oil will still be there 50, 100, 200 years from now.
Long after the desert sources will be used up and those places will be
vastly overpopulated slums.
Oh, wait. They are slums now.
Looks like the oil money sure helped their places....
I'm sure the environmentalists (socialists) would find an endangered shale
snail to prevent them flattening a shale mountain for money (oil)
Jeff

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>I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+
>bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and
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> Seeing is believing
> Paul V

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Bill Glass - 07 Aug 2006 14:53 GMT
That was discovered back in the 50's and 60's, problem was back then, they
did not have the technology, then in the 70's during
the fuel crisis they revisted the shale oil and they finally came up with a
method of getting the oil out, but it was too expensive. Now
twenty some odd years later, with the cost of a barrel skyrockeing, it has
become cost effective, IF oil stays at these or higher prices.

I dont know how it would impact the enviorment, but from what I understand,
the land is not inhabitable as in unstable.

Just sit back and see how things progress. I am afraid that the use of the
land will be ruled off limits. Somebody would rather build a ski resort
rather than fuel the country.

Bill

>I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+
>bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and
>extraction methods were perfected in the 1980's. The article indicated that
John Poulos - 07 Aug 2006 15:09 GMT
If oil stays at $70 a barrel or goes higher, they'll go after that shale
oil.  BTW, you don't "drill" for shale oil, nor is it oil. It's organic
material trapped in rock that is converted to oil. It's expensive and
energy intensive to extract.

> I came across an article a few months ago that indicated over a trillion+
> bbls of oil is located in potential fields in Colorado -shale oil and
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midlant@earthlink.net - 08 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT
It comes down to that the amount of oil recoverable includes being able
to make a profit.
(Or win a war, in the case of Hitler.)

Gord should be able to explain it, but I think that money enters into
it somewhere along the line. <g>
Karl

> If oil stays at $70 a barrel or goes higher, they'll go after that shale
> oil.  BTW, you don't "drill" for shale oil, nor is it oil. It's organic
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Jim Caldwell - 08 Aug 2006 22:46 GMT
I remember hunting in Colorado and sitting around a campfire when the
rocks surrounding the fire pit started burning.  A very large plant was
built northwest of Rifle, Colorado for extraction purposes but the
process was too expensive at the time.  I wonder if they have re-opened
that plant.

> It comes down to that the amount of oil recoverable includes being able
> to make a profit.
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