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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2006

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Rat Rod Custom, Yea right???

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Malcom Gillette - 07 Aug 2006 06:24 GMT
One of the most overused selling points on any old hunk of iron is
"Would make a great Rat Rod Custom"!!!!
Do these people pushing this iron have a clue what a "Rat Rod"
is. I don't either, but I imagine it as somewhat of a custom.
Or does it have something to do with the Rat Fink cars.
Or is it have to be one of the ugliest cars on the planet, just to make it
uglier? Oh its a 4 door sedan nobdy wanted when it was new,It'll make a
great rat rod.
If you are looking for selling points, might I point out some.
1. Does it run?
2.Can it move under its own power?
3.Can it stop?

Pretty good questions.
Malcom
zoombot@cox.net - 07 Aug 2006 06:39 GMT
Malcom - a "rat rod" is pretty much any old-looking rod that seems
unfinished, unpainted, purposely ugly or outrageous looking, and
sometimes even unsafe. Personally, I haven't seen many "customs" that
met this criteria, but the latest buzzwords are often overused.
The real head scratcher for me is, the people who seem to be living in
this "lifestyle" that corresponds to the rat rod culture. What gives?
Ed Roth didn't do anything similar, and when asked about the culture
his response was "it's nuts!".
It will soon be supplanted by another fad, and we'll be seeing more of
those words that define that concept. Don't sweat it!
Tex - 07 Aug 2006 07:02 GMT
LOL.....here Malcom...check this out...hey ,did you ever here the old
saying, ''if I have to explain ,you wouldn't understand''..
ebay......      170010165899       oh yeah, it runs, moves under its
own power and stops...and doesn't appear to be too ugly, LOL

> One of the most overused selling points on any old hunk of iron is
> "Would make a great Rat Rod Custom"!!!!
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> Pretty good questions.
> Malcom
itraseecab@aol.com - 07 Aug 2006 14:06 GMT
When I was at Bonneville a few years ago there were several rods
running around that were termed "rat rods." This was a new term to me,
so I asked a guy who was driving a flat black '33 Ford coupe. Now this
thing was chopped so much that its windows were only  few inches high.
It had no insert in the roof. Bare bones.  I pleaded ingnorance and
asked the owner/driver about his car and the term rat rod.  He smiled
and said that his car was not a rat rod, but that it would be one next
year. I asked what change would make it a rat rod.  "Next year it will
have a straight eight Buick engine not this small block Chevy."   The
essence I think is being different. True rat rods are driven, home
built (by the owner and friends not by a fancy shop that turns out show
cars), usually flat color (manytimes but not always black), steel
bodies (original seems to be preferable.) with something unusual
powering them.  Lots that I saw used minimal interior and upholstry.
It is a rebellious trend that has recently slipped into the custom
field as well. Although those vehicles need to be earlier than the
mid-'60's it seems.  Different is the key word, thus four doors, six
cylinders, not traditional power (Olds, Buick, flatheat, even Studebakr
engines fit the bill.)
 Yes. the term is now being much overused which of course confuses the
issue. I can see the term rat rod/custom falling our of favor soon just
because it has become too popular. This would naturally go against the
idea of being different.
   These are my humble observations about what rat rods/customs are.
Yep, I sort of like 'em. Let's see a '29 turtle deck roadster, flat
black w/flames, red wire wheels (or solid red wheels with small caps),
Cathcart 185 Champion motor and a floor shifted 3sp/od tranny........

Joe Roberts
> One of the most overused selling points on any old hunk of iron is
> "Would make a great Rat Rod Custom"!!!!
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> Pretty good questions.
> Malcom
Jeff Rice - 07 Aug 2006 15:03 GMT
'Rat Rod' has become a used car term...
Sort of like 'Needs restored'..
WTH is that?
The minute a label gets created for a fad, I tend to lose interest.
Now the vehicle itself is another thing.
It's the label that gets used to sell that turns me off.

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John Poulos - 07 Aug 2006 14:54 GMT
Those are the last items I worry about.<g> My list would be:

1. How's the body, chrome ?
2. How's the paint?
3. How about the interior ?

> If you are looking for selling points, might I point out some.
> 1. Does it run?
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> Pretty good questions.
> Malcom

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Kenneth Robinson - 07 Aug 2006 17:56 GMT
My list is
1) Body
2) interior
3) mechanical
I need a good two out of the three to make it a project.
> Those are the last items I worry about.<g> My list would be:
>
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>> Pretty good questions.
>> Malcom
 
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