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Just got back from a 25 hour flight from Richmond Va to Atlanta Ga and then home to FL. I will never voluntarily fly again for the rest of my life! The last time I flew the plane had a ruptured fuel pump. Luckily I was sitting by the window and noticed it before we took off. I must have bad luck when it comes to flying! I will stick with Studebakers for travel. I agree, I used to fly 2-3 times a year. I haven't flown in 3 years and don't miss it a bit. One day in an airport anymore and you will be convinced that people are idiots... mostly the passengers. I've spent more time waiting to take off than I care to remember... one flight out of Minneapolis comes to mind: 16:00 - Board the plane 18:00 - Finally are next in line to take off 18:01 - Sitting on the runway and the airport is shut down for weather 22:00 - Taxi back to the terminal to refuel 23:00 - Deplane because Northwest has canceled the flight 02:00 - Finally get booked on another flight after waiting in line for three hours 03:00 - Arrive at a Super 8 (of course all that's available is a smoking room) 07:00 - Finally take off for Charlotte Lee (sitting on a ton of worthless frequent flier miles) > Just got back from a 25 hour flight from Richmond Va to Atlanta Ga and > then home to FL. I will never voluntarily fly again for the rest of my > life! The last time I flew the plane had a ruptured fuel pump. > Luckily I was sitting by the window and noticed it before we took off. > I must have bad luck when it comes to flying! I will stick with > Studebakers for travel. North West is the airline that had the ruptured fuel pump on the A320 I was on. I looked out the window and saw the jet fuel pouring from the engine. We all got off and they got a new plane for us to fly on. This happened in 2004 so when I got up to tell the flight attendant (we are on the runway in line to take off) I thought people might think I was doing something crazy, but it worked out ok. > I agree, I used to fly 2-3 times a year. I haven't flown in 3 years and > don't miss it a bit. One day in an airport anymore and you will be [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I must have bad luck when it comes to flying! I will stick with > > Studebakers for travel. No one called you William Shatner? Jeff (Queue the Twilight Zone music..) Rice "Michael - Roseland FL" wrote... > North West is the airline that had the ruptured fuel pump on the A320 I > was on. I looked out the window and saw the jet fuel pouring from the > engine. We all got off and they got a new plane for us to fly on. > This happened in 2004 so when I got up to tell the flight attendant (we > are on the runway in line to take off) I thought people might think I > was doing something crazy, but it worked out ok.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I did think about there a man on the wing when it happened Jeff! Very funny but real!! > No one called you William Shatner? > Jeff (Queue the Twilight Zone music..) Rice [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > are on the runway in line to take off) I thought people might think I > > was doing something crazy, but it worked out ok. You saw it too! Malcom > I did think about there a man on the wing when it happened Jeff! Very > funny but real!! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > are on the runway in line to take off) I thought people might think I > > > was doing something crazy, but it worked out ok. Notice how the decline of the industry started right after Northwest was the first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... > Just got back from a 25 hour flight from Richmond Va to Atlanta Ga and > then home to FL. I will never voluntarily fly again for the rest of my > life! The last time I flew the plane had a ruptured fuel pump. > Luckily I was sitting by the window and noticed it before we took off. > I must have bad luck when it comes to flying! I will stick with > Studebakers for travel. Turning airports into flying bus stations has more to do with it than banning smoking on flights. Lee > Notice how the decline of the industry started right after Northwest was > the > first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... I remember wearing a business suit to fly for my company. United lost the baggage.Promissed it within hours - several times over the next few days. Client was a fertilizer plant in Marsailles, IL. Got baggage just as I was about to leave for O'Hare for flight home a few days later, No very pleased. Can't recall flying (on my own cash) on United since then. Karl > Turning airports into flying bus stations has more to do with it than > banning smoking on flights. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > the > > first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... I flew United to/from San Francisco and they were excellent, was going to fly Qantas, but my travel agent said their service was "crap." Avantilover >I remember wearing a business suit to fly for my company. > United lost the baggage.Promissed it within hours - several times over [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> > the >> > first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... >I flew United to/from San Francisco and they were excellent, was going to >fly Qantas, but my travel agent said their service was "crap." I used to fly United a lot and always favored it, but it's been a few years. I liked their buffet setup in the DC-10s. Best airline is Singapore Air- terrific service, good food (believe it or not). Other than tight seating in coach, I even found Air France to have good service and food. Paul Johnson KLM used to be the one for me. I used to go for the last row, too. Oft times I had the whole row to myself! I don't know whjat it's like since the mergers. For England, I suggest flying into Birmingham for those going anywhere north of the close-in northern suburbs of London up to where Manchester becomes more desirable than Birmingham. "Brum" is the centre of the motorways system and the airport is a no-hassle one for arrivals - and pretty easy for departures, too, Karl > >I flew United to/from San Francisco and they were excellent, was going to > >fly Qantas, but my travel agent said their service was "crap." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in coach, I even found Air France to have good service and food. > Paul Johnson Agreed, Singapore is great and does fly from Adelaide, however our Government won't allow it access to the pacific route, and it's a longer trip if I went with them to the US. 7.5 hrs to Singapore then around 16 hrs to the States. Never flown Air France. John >>I flew United to/from San Francisco and they were excellent, was going to >>fly Qantas, but my travel agent said their service was "crap." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and food. > Paul Johnson > >I flew United to/from San Francisco and they were excellent, was going to > >fly Qantas, but my travel agent said their service was "crap." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in coach, I even found Air France to have good service and food. > Paul Johnson Yes, never had a disapointing experience on Singapore Airlines. Most of their fleet is less than five years old and the service is second to none.. JT The more security we have at airports, the less likely I am to fly. Why? It takes almost two hours real time to fly almost anywhere, no matter how short. Add to that the two hours early you're supposed to show up at the airport (the last time I flew, it was a good thing I did show up two hours early, as it took an hour and a half to get my tickets and get through security) and the hour you wait for your luggage at your destination, and suddenly driving to Cleveland doesn't seem so bad after all. And, of course, in your own car the seats are actually *wider* than your shoulders, and you get to eat, drink, smoke, fart, whatever you want to do on the way, not to mention you get to pick your traveling companion (or choose not to have one) as well. Flying first class would be civilized if it weren't for the herding-cattle security experience, but I've only done it once, as I don't have the $$ to do it regularly. nate > I remember wearing a business suit to fly for my company. > United lost the baggage.Promissed it within hours - several times over [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>the >>>first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel All excellent points, Nate. Flying can really suck. Especially when security issues, airline stupidity, or scummy fellow passengers make the trip miserable for you. But sometimes, for long trips &w/ limited time for travelling along with sky-high fuel prices, it is better to spend a couple of hours in the air, next to a smelly fat guy with pneumonia,n with a teen ager behind you kicking the back of your seat every time you nod off to sleeep, & a minority couple across the aisle with 2 screaming toddlers rather than 2 days driving. My recent flight to Omaha was not bad at all, even though I could not get on the 1st flight out, and had to wait in a crowded terminal for 3 hours because i was non-rev.. Part of it is being mentally prepared for all of the unnecesary BS you will be put through. Flights into demographically favorable midwestern cities are usually better than flights to or from places like LA, Atlanta, Detroit, or Newark/NYC, I have noticed. The passengers are more considerate and the terminals are much more laid back. For distances less than 500 miles, it is no wonder that more & more people will drive rather than endure the rising expense & hassle of air travel, though. My sister (who turns 50 this week)refuses to fly anymore at all. Barry (drivin' to Omaha in Sept.) > The more security we have at airports, the less likely I am to fly. > Why? It takes almost two hours real time to fly almost anywhere, no [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel The study they did at Northwest showed a big drop in time smoking and a drop in lung cancer by their workers causing a drop in lost time at work...Win win for everyone... I think they are going to next take the windows out of the planes for some reason ?? So if I fly which I like doing, I at least know the first to die in a crash will be the guy (pilot)doing the flying up front...So you know he will try harder to get you there in one piece...Somehow that makes it at least seem fair... I have a plan for the guys that fix the planes on the ground...Have one name picked from a hat to fly on the plane they just worked on... Lansing >Notice how the decline of the industry started right after Northwest was the >first to ban smoking? Must be a fuel pump thing... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> I must have bad luck when it comes to flying! I will stick with >> Studebakers for travel. Please remove the X to e-mail me...I get spam here daily > "The study they did at Northwest showed a big drop in time smoking and > a drop in lung cancer by their workers causing a drop in lost time at > work...Win win for everyone..." I have no doubt Northwest is willing to turn out a study showing about anything. After all, they don't need flaps for takeoffs. Not one of the 156 people on Flight 255 died of lung cancer. Win win...their bottom line. Fresh Data I just drove to PA - Nashville Fri night-Sat Am and flew back this morning. Random facts 1. At age 49 you can still sleep in a car for 2 nights but it beats up a 49 YO a lot worse than when he was 25. 2. It's half as cheap to fly nashville- Pittsburgh on Sunday morning if you leave at 5:30 vs 9:00 Am $117 vs $249 3. Skinny little 3 across seating jets go really fast. 1 hour 15 minutes and we landed. WOW. 4. Baggage calim is still a goat rope. 45 minutes waiting to collect the stuff I checked because I didnt want to discard liquids or set off alarms at the security screening. 5. Yes you have to take off your shoes. Somebody needs to kick Richard Reid's a.s every day from now until forever. 6. The wands are REALLY sensitive. I saw a nice lady getting wanded. The wands picked up all the wire hooks in her bra and the rivets in her jeans. 7. US Air doean't seem to be FXXXked up any worse than the other airlines. 8. No liquids on the airplanes means you can't buy a botle of water on the airplane side of security and take it on the jet. 9 I still hate flying, but it's a hell of a lot faster than driving..........mostly. Mark (6500 hours of flighht time USAF) Dunning It would be a long story, but the jist of it is that it took my wife and I 36 hours to get from Raleigh-Durham to Little Rock, Arkansas. We were only 24 hours late! This was before the latest delays because of the recent occurance in England. Delta Airlines is absolutely terrible!!!!! Had to spend the night in Atlanta (weather delay thus we had to pay for lodging, etc.) without our luggage. The security people in every airport were great! Return flight on American was much better. I had not flown in over 20 years and hope I will not fly ever again. Although my wife reminds me that getting to England by car is presently not a practicle idea. Joe (no wonder the airlines are broke) Roberts. > Although my wife reminds > me that getting to England by car is presently not a practicle idea. Dammit, don't ya just hate it when they are right? <G> SignatureDave (A marriage is a relationship in which one partner is a husband, and the other is always right) Lester Dave's Place Home of the Internationally Renowned Studebakers, 'Sheba and Goliath See pictures at www.davesplaceinc.com Yep, and I don't mind admitting she's is usually right. Joe Roberts > Dammit, don't ya just hate it when they are right? <G> > -- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Home of the Internationally Renowned Studebakers, 'Sheba and Goliath > See pictures at www.davesplaceinc.com > Return flight on American was much better. I had not flown in over > 20 years and hope I will not fly ever again. Although my wife reminds > me that getting to England by car is presently not a practicle idea. You could always take a cruise ship to England... and hope you don't catch something. Lee What a choice! There is a lot of this country I have yet to see and I can do it by car! Joe (Yea, I know $3.00 a gallaon) Roberts > > Return flight on American was much better. I had not flown in over > > 20 years and hope I will not fly ever again. Although my wife reminds [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Lee > It would be a long story, but the jist of it is that it took my > wife and I 36 hours to get from Raleigh-Durham to Little Rock, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joe (no wonder the airlines are broke) Roberts. OTOH, I (who frequently and intentionally gets bumped), got bumped by NWA last November in Austin where I was promptly put on the next flight on a Delta flight that just happened to be going directly to my destination that actually arrived within minutes of my original NWA schedule. Just a couple of months ago, flew SWA (after discovering the senior discount) and got bumped in Chicago (Midway). Took eighteen hours instead of the usual four and learned the painful lesson that SWA will NEVER put you on a competitor's aircraft so you're stuck with whatever SW has available... JT (Peanuts... Bah!) I'm hoping the charter flight to the Nevada casino has is less of a hassle then flying commercial. It's still a month away and things may calm down. > It would be a long story, but the jist of it is that it took my > wife and I 36 hours to get from Raleigh-Durham to Little Rock, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joe (no wonder the airlines are broke) Roberts. SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Daytona HT 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 62 Daytona HT 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk |
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