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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2006Help! My horn does not work
I was testing the horn circuit and found the problem. The wire that goes down the centre of the steering column has over-heated and burn off. I have pulled the wire out (big mistake) Where does this wire come out of the centre of the steering column? I now have the entire thing apart and can not make it out . HELP! Allen Anderson  Signature1964 GT Hawk * R2 Engine Wanted Oakville, Ontario Something is screwed up, IMHO. That wire carries only enough current to operate the horn relay. Milleamps going to ground at the horn button area. Could someone have messed with it before you bought it? (I'm talking late model cars. What youg got?) Karl > I was testing the horn circuit and found the problem. The wire that goes down > the centre of the steering column has over-heated and burn off. I have pulled [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Message posted via CarKB.com > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/studebaker/200608/1 I don' know. When I took it apart the wire was going down the centre of the steering column I can not push it back down as far as it came out. There is about 8" remaining when I try. the wire has cloth insulation. It came out really easy. The car is a 64 GT Hawk. I bought a shop manual but the way things are going I will be finished the car before it receive the manual. >Something is screwed up, IMHO. >That wire carries only enough current to operate the horn relay. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Message posted via CarKB.com >> http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/studebaker/200608/1 Signature1964 GT Hawk * R2 Engine Wanted Oakville, Ontario Power Steering? On the 56 GH, to replace the horn wire is a 7 hour project. On all other cars, its 30 min. Look under the hood, down at the end of your steering column, If there is a tab with a wire connected to it, it might be similar to the 56, which requires removing the jacket and disconnecting the steering colum rod and running a new wire down the center and connecting it to the isolated coupler that attaches the steering column to the power steering box. But before you panic, in the years between 56 and 64 thay might have changed things. If you can get your hands on a Service Manual and a Body and Chassis book, it would make your life easier. BG >I was testing the horn circuit and found the problem. The wire that goes >down [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Allen Anderson Yes the GT Hawk has power steering. I have a chassis manual which has very little information on the horn. The wilre is long enough to reach the end of the steering column but I do not see any tab and no wire attached to a tab. The wire looks burnt at a glance but may well be just steering column lubricant. With closer inspection the wire appears sheared right at the very end. Its looking like the seven hour project. I have loosened the collar by the steering box I have the steering wheel off I have the turn indicator collar off I can loosen the two bolts under the dash What's next? >Power Steering? On the 56 GH, to replace the horn wire is a 7 hour project. >On all other cars, its 30 min. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Allen Anderson Signature1964 GT Hawk * R2 Engine Wanted Oakville, Ontario I want to say that it just comes out the bottom end of the steering box; look for a little hole. If you have one try to poke some mechanic's wire up through; should come out the top of the steering column. If that works, just butt splice the real wire onto the mechanics wire and pull it back down. good luck, nate > Yes the GT Hawk has power steering. I have a chassis manual which has very > little information on the horn. The wilre is long enough to reach the end of [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >>>Allen Anderson Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel BTW what Bill is talking about is the Saginaw power steering, I've done two of those horn wires and would be happy if I never did another. nate > Yes the GT Hawk has power steering. I have a chassis manual which has very > little information on the horn. The wilre is long enough to reach the end of [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >>>Allen Anderson Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel GT Hawk is a 10 minute job. Just thread a new wire . > Yes the GT Hawk has power steering. I have a chassis manual which has very > little information on the horn. The wilre is long enough to reach the end of [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> Allen Anderson SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Daytona HT 64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper) 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 62 Daytona HT 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk Thanks everyone. Bill gave me the clues to solve my problem. I finally looked at the power steering section of the chassis book and found my wire coming out the end of the gear box. I had previously been looking at the electrical section. I found the little hole and discovered the wire will not go down the tube but will go up the tube. I also found the other end of the wire that was burnt against the manifold. Yep its a 10 minute job tomorrow morning and another 10 minute job mounting the battery box. It's another step closer to getting my safety certificate and my license for the car. Not all was wasted, I had to remove the steering wheel anyway to tighten the turn signal indicator that was flopping around. Allen >GT Hawk is a 10 minute job. Just thread a new wire . > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>>> Allen Anderson Signature1964 GT Hawk * R2 Engine Wanted Oakville, Ontario |
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