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Jimmy Carter's first car was a 48 Studebaker, owner wants to donate to Carter Center

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Don Smith - 21 Aug 2006 19:16 GMT
I have heard from a member of our club that the owner of a 1948
Studebaker in California wants to donate their car to the Jimmy Carter
center here in Atlanta, Georgia.  A contact for the center has asked
our club for help in finding  someone to donate the transportation
costs.  I have asked for the contact information and will be glad to
provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out.

Don Smith
President, North Georgia SDC
John Poulos - 21 Aug 2006 20:16 GMT
Might be a good way to get rid of the Internet treasury and CD profit
money.We need to do something with it while we are still alive to keep
track of it. <g> Even if we don't use it for this, someone has to do
something with it.

> I have heard from a member of our club that the owner of a 1948
> Studebaker in California wants to donate their car to the Jimmy Carter
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Don Smith
> President, North Georgia SDC

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Jeff Rice - 21 Aug 2006 20:42 GMT
NAY!

I will NOT support the use of IC funds for a tax write-off for someone...
and a cheap a.s'ed way to get someone else to pay money (shipping)
for someone to charge money (museum) for something to look at (a
Studebaker).
I'd rather piss all the IC money away to the SNM for that club meeting room
than this idea.....
Jeff (hot, sweaty, and po'd... <lol>) Rice

> Might be a good way to get rid of the Internet treasury and CD profit
> money.We need to do something with it while we are still alive to keep
> track of it. <g> Even if we don't use it for this, someone has to do
> something with it.

>> I have heard from a member of our club that the owner of a 1948
>> Studebaker in California wants to donate their car to the Jimmy Carter
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
>> President, North Georgia SDC

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Jerry Forrester - 21 Aug 2006 21:09 GMT
Don't hold back Jeff. Tell us what you really think. <G>

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> NAY!
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
> >> President, North Georgia SDC
John Poulos - 21 Aug 2006 21:47 GMT
Club meeting room is a great idea, even a desk top with net access to
use while in South Bend would be fine. ( With a sign "Courtesy of the
Studebaker News Group")
> NAY!
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
>>> President, North Georgia SDC

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Pat Drnec - 21 Aug 2006 21:58 GMT
Mac or PC?

> Club meeting room is a great idea, even a desk top with net access to
> use while in South Bend would be fine. ( With a sign "Courtesy of the
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>>> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
>>>> President, North Georgia SDC

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Remove the studebaker to email.

The only label that fits:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml

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Jeff Rice - 21 Aug 2006 23:21 GMT
Now THAT I would support...
Shoot, I'll even donate a nice (used) PC...
Jeff

"John Poulos" wrote...
> Club meeting room is a great idea, even a desk top with net access to use
> while in South Bend would be fine. ( With a sign "Courtesy of the
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>>> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
>>>> President, North Georgia SDC

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Lee Aanderud - 21 Aug 2006 22:28 GMT
So I guess donating to the Bill Clinton 1962-65 Playboy collection is out of
the question. <G>

Lee

> NAY!
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>> provide that to any serious inquiries about helping out. Don Smith
>>> President, North Georgia SDC
Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Aug 2006 02:48 GMT
The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).

<eg>

JT

> NAY!
>
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John Poulos - 22 Aug 2006 02:59 GMT
Setting aside funding the shipping issue, Carter is a ex President
that owed a Studebaker. Some folks pay money to see his museum, those
folks would see the Studebaker, and that's a good thing. After all the
Ford museum proudly displays a letter from John Dillinger about Fords
and he was not exactly a pillar of the community. BTW, the content of
your comment could launch the black helicopters to your home.

> The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
> is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
>
> <eg>
>
> JT

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Jeff Rice - 22 Aug 2006 03:13 GMT
I do hope that my earlier comments were not taken at the political level.
I just thought that a donation to a money making museum should not have
strings and conveyances attached.
Museums are like fund raising companies.
They spend a great deal of time in the pursuit of generating more
fundraising, and the skim (a crude but effective term) is very lucrative.
The act of actually bringing historical information to the viewing public
and actually educating people seems to take a back seat.
Just whose museum it is seems a minor point.
Jeff (Unless a famous person was conceived in a Stude, with
provenance..<lol>.) Rice

"John Poulos" wrote...
>    Setting aside funding the shipping issue, Carter is a ex President that
> owed a Studebaker. Some folks pay money to see his museum, those folks
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
>> <eg>

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Lansing Small - 22 Aug 2006 22:39 GMT
Jeff...Your comments did not ask the question I wondered ?? IS this very
car the one and only one that the EX President used or did someone else
use it then blame it on poor Jimmy Carter ?? for tax savings ??...So how
do they/us prove this was really the one owned at one time by Mr.Carter
??  wasn't he in the Navy back then ?? and could he even aford a stude
then ?? More questions than answers !

So I think if they give the car,whatever the reasons, they should
deliver it as well to the museum door !!

PS...As Jeff was unually for him short***** on this topic,I think he has
moving/packing stress for which we can all agree will make anyone be a
bit short******.......just my opinion...

Lansing

>>I do hope that my earlier comments were not taken at the political level.
>>I just thought that a donation to a money making museum should not have
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>>> is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
>>>> <eg>
Loy Daniel - 22 Aug 2006 23:02 GMT
Good for Jimmy Carter! He did one thing right in his life...he owned a
Studebaker.

George H. Bush also owned a Studebaker but I'd be willing to bet that there
won't be one donated to his 'museum' (library) anytime down the road. I'd
rather see the funds go for something more tangible than to provide free
transportation to some else's Philanthropic  gesture to gooberville.

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Loy Daniel
High Plains Chapter, SDC
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hpsdc

>    Setting aside funding the shipping issue, Carter is a ex President that
> owed a Studebaker. Some folks pay money to see his museum, those folks
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> JT

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57hawk@charter.net - 24 Aug 2006 03:43 GMT
> Good for Jimmy Carter! He did one thing right in his life...he owned a
> Studebaker.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> rather see the funds go for something more tangible than to provide free
> transportation to some else's Philanthropic  gesture to gooberville.

Loy,
   I thought George H's Studebaker was in his museum. Some where I saw
a picture of it and an article that included B B Hollands name.
Ronnie Scheller, Marysville, Kansas
Transtar60xxx@earthlink.net - 24 Aug 2006 04:20 GMT
>> Good for Jimmy Carter! He did one thing right in his life...he owned a
>> Studebaker.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> a picture of it and an article that included B B Hollands name.
> Ronnie Scheller, Marysville, Kansas

Its identical but not the exact car.

> http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/tour/studebaker.php
Loy Daniel - 25 Aug 2006 03:57 GMT
Well...if that's true, by golly... ol'd Jimmy should have a Stude in his
museum as well. They should put a Studebaker in every Presidential
museum...Clinton needs one with a drop-top and stains on the seatcovers.<g>

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Loy Daniel
High Plains Chapter, SDC
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hpsdc

>> Good for Jimmy Carter! He did one thing right in his life...he owned a
>> Studebaker.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> a picture of it and an article that included B B Hollands name.
> Ronnie Scheller, Marysville, Kansas

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Grumpy AuContraire - 25 Aug 2006 05:35 GMT
Yeeeeeeeeeee......  Dat's C-O-L-D!!!

<G>

JT

> Well...if that's true, by golly... ol'd Jimmy should have a Stude in his
> museum as well. They should put a Studebaker in every Presidential
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betrtimes - 26 Aug 2006 05:35 GMT
> Well...if that's true, by golly... ol'd Jimmy should have a Stude in
> his museum as well. They should put a Studebaker in every Presidential
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> High Plains Chapter, SDC
> http://clubs.hemmings.com/hpsdc

I was at the auto museum on Petit Jean Mountain last weekend, its where
Clinton's 67 Mustang convertible currently resides.

the top was down, but I didn't see any stains on the upholstry.

someone did cobble in some round JENSEN speakers in the rear seat fender
panels.

other than that, its a very nice original car
Neil Doune Anblomee - 22 Aug 2006 13:59 GMT
> The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
> is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
>
> <eg>

Of course... he did win a Nobel Prize as compaired you..... who hasn't
won anything more than the glory of being known for being a dick.
Lee Aanderud - 22 Aug 2006 14:02 GMT
And who are you again???  Someone who changed his name which reads, "Kneel
Down and Blow Me"?  I guess "Suck My Dick" was too subtle and too the point.

Lee

> Of course... he did win a Nobel Prize as compaired you..... who hasn't
> won anything more than the glory of being known for being a dick.

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Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Aug 2006 22:13 GMT
Name calling (or pulling the race card) is the favorite tactic of
liberals who have lost or are losing a debate.  I've never seen it to
fail and he proved it but once again...

JT

> And who are you again???  Someone who changed his name which reads, "Kneel
> Down and Blow Me"?  I guess "Suck My Dick" was too subtle and too the point.
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Mark Dunning - 22 Aug 2006 19:14 GMT
On this group we post our real names.
There are those that don't, but they lose credibility points for the lack of
testicular fortitude

If you are gonna jump in and dis a productive long term member of the
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>> The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
>> is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Of course... he did win a Nobel Prize as compaired you..... who hasn't
> won anything more than the glory of being known for being a dick.
Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Aug 2006 22:12 GMT
> > The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
> > is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Of course... he did win a Nobel Prize as compaired you..... who hasn't
> won anything more than the glory of being known for being a dick.

Oh yeah and he basically led the way to appeasement beginning with Iran,
gave away the Panama Canal, initiated the greatest example of runaway
inflation in the 20th century (to go along with interest rates), and
after his presidency notably negotiated (along with that other
incompetent, Richardson) that great deal with North Korea regarding
Nuclear issues.

Yeah, whatta guy!

JT
Jeffrey DeWitt - 23 Aug 2006 01:42 GMT
All that is true but at least you can't say he didn't make a difference!

Jeff DeWitt

>>>The only way I could support sending a Studebaker to the Carter museum
>>>is if he gets burried in it (hopefully alive).
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> JT
Grumpy AuContraire - 23 Aug 2006 05:15 GMT
Yes!  In the negative direction...  Just what we need..

JT

> All that is true but at least you can't say he didn't make a difference!
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >
> > JT
Transtar60xxx@earthlink.net - 21 Aug 2006 23:26 GMT
> I have heard from a member of our club that the owner of a 1948
> Studebaker in California wants to donate their car to the Jimmy Carter
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Don Smith
> President, North Georgia SDC
Call Jimmy C. he still makes the big bucks.
Grumpy AuContraire - 22 Aug 2006 02:50 GMT
> > I have heard from a member of our club that the owner of a 1948
> > Studebaker in California wants to donate their car to the Jimmy Carter
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > President, North Georgia SDC
> Call Jimmy C. he still makes the big bucks.

Heh...  I could support that!

JT
Mike - 22 Aug 2006 08:47 GMT
I'm surprised no one mentioned this one:
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/tour/texasmove.php .
 I like the idea of  the "Bill Clinton 1962-65 Playboy Collection"!
                                           Mike M.
Malcom Gillette - 22 Aug 2006 18:05 GMT
But thats different!! He's a Republican and father to our great current
president. Not one of  them no-good for nothing free spending, give our
country away to the commines Democrat.
Malcom
>   I'm surprised no one mentioned this one:
> http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/tour/texasmove.php .
>   I like the idea of  the "Bill Clinton 1962-65 Playboy Collection"!
>                                             Mike M.
karinhall - 22 Aug 2006 21:34 GMT
> But thats different!! He's a Republican and father to our great current
> president. Not one of  them no-good for nothing free spending, give our
> country away to the commines Democrat.
> Malcom

You've got to be kidding!  Right??  LOL ROFL
Pat Drnec - 22 Aug 2006 21:38 GMT
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

>> But thats different!! He's a Republican and father to our great current
>> president. Not one of  them no-good for nothing free spending, give our
>> country away to the commines Democrat.
>> Malcom
>
> You've got to be kidding!  Right??  LOL ROFL

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Remove the studebaker to email.

The only label that fits:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by
the president or any other public official save exactly to the degree in
which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him
insofar as he  efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to
oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he
fails in his duty to stand by the country."

- President Theodore Roosevelt, 1908

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1964 Cruiser (Survivor)
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