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Many of us use diesel rated oils like Rotella for it's zinc content to protect our Studebaker cam shafts. Those oils contain .14 percent zinc and that's do to drop next year. I learned this from a ad in the Sept TW about "Motorhead" oil that contains .5 % zinc for older cars. You should not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years.  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 65 Daytona Sports Sedan 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Avanti R2 63 Daytona convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 60 Lark Convert 51 Commander Now I am wondering what I am supposed to put in my '80's brand X's with slider cams. They have cat. converters. I was just thinking of going the diesel route with one thats due for a oil change, maybe I need to do more research? Jeff in ND > Many of us use diesel rated oils like Rotella for it's zinc content to > protect our Studebaker cam shafts. Those oils contain .14 percent zinc > and that's do to drop next year. I learned this from a ad in the Sept TW > about "Motorhead" oil that contains .5 % zinc for older cars. You should > not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That > still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years. It seems as if there will eventually be an additive available much like the lead substitute. > Now I am wondering what I am supposed to put in my '80's brand X's with > slider cams. They have cat. converters. I was just thinking of going [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That > > still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years. You gave me a idea, and I found this: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CRN%2D99003%2D1&N =700+400078+1001+115&autoview=sku > It seems as if there will eventually be an additive available much like > the lead substitute. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That >>> still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years. SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 65 Daytona Sports Sedan 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Avanti R2 63 Daytona convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 60 Lark Convert 51 Commander FWIW I used to run Rotella in all my cars, actually I am currently running the synthetic 5W40 version in the Porsche, just passed emissions earlier this year after 2 yrs. of a diet of alternating Rotella and Mobil 1 (Rotella is my first choice, but the synthetic is apparently only available at Wal-Mart, and not my local one either) nate > Now I am wondering what I am supposed to put in my '80's brand X's with > slider cams. They have cat. converters. I was just thinking of going [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That >>still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years. Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel I worked for two school districts in AZ one large with many gas & diesel engines I was director of transportation at the one I retired from. We used Dello 400 15/40 at both places in every thing gas or diesel for years and don't remember ever having problem with a cat. I personally had close to 200K on a 93 Chevy pick up and used Dello 400 exclusively and never a problem. There may be a problem using diesel oil in a car with a cat but I have never had one and use it in every thing I drive. SignatureJerry Kaiser (Studeblu) 64 One Ton 61 Champ pick up 53 Starlight Coupe ( pinky) 53 2R6 57 Silver Hawk 37 President > Now I am wondering what I am supposed to put in my '80's brand X's with > slider cams. They have cat. converters. I was just thinking of going [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> not use it in catalytic converter cars and it's about $15 a gallon. That >> still might be cheap insurance in the upcoming years. look into using motorcycle rated oils. > Many of us use diesel rated oils like Rotella for it's zinc content to > protect our Studebaker cam shafts. Those oils contain .14 percent zinc [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > 60 Lark Convert > 51 Commander Explain the need for Zinc, how does it help the cam, and do all diesel engine oils have Zinc in them? Thanks Bill > Many of us use diesel rated oils like Rotella for it's zinc content to > protect our Studebaker cam shafts. Those oils contain .14 percent zinc " Zinc and Phosphorus -- the two primary metal anti-wear additives. Their purpose is to provide some degree of lubrication for metal-to-metal contact when oil pressure is too low (such as bearing surfaces while starting an engine). These two chemicals are usually packaged together by additive companies for the oil companies to use, as zinc dithiophosphate (ZDDP), and the oil companies add varying amounts to different formulations of their oils. Good for your engine, but high contents of it may foul catalytic converters if present." > Explain the need for Zinc, how does it help the cam, and do all diesel > engine oils have Zinc in them? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Many of us use diesel rated oils like Rotella for it's zinc content to >> protect our Studebaker cam shafts. Those oils contain .14 percent zinc SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 65 Daytona Sports Sedan 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Avanti R2 63 Daytona convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 60 Lark Convert 51 Commander many UJM (Universal Japanese Motorcycles) have cams that run in an aluminum casting with no insert type bearings and requires zinc for reducing surface wear. > " Zinc and Phosphorus -- the two primary metal anti-wear additives. > Their purpose is to provide some degree of lubrication for [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > 60 Lark Convert > 51 Commander also think of GM's EOS (Engine Oil Supplement) before that is banned also! > " Zinc and Phosphorus -- the two primary metal anti-wear additives. > Their purpose is to provide some degree of lubrication for [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > 60 Lark Convert > 51 Commander Do you ever get the feeling that there is a guv'ment conspiracy to force us to buy/finance and drive new cars? <G> JT > also think of GM's EOS (Engine Oil Supplement) before that is banned > also! 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