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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2006R2 Hawk vs R2 Lark
When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark should be the faster of the two? The Lark is brick aerodynamically. > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark > should be the faster of the two?  SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 65 Daytona Sports Sedan 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Avanti R2 63 Daytona convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 60 Lark Convert 51 Commander > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark > should be the faster of the two? All other things being equal (transmission, rear end, etc.) I would expect the Lark to be *quicker* but even with the big, upright grille I suspect the Hawk would be more aerodynamic thus the higher top speed. A 53-54 coupe or hardtop with the same drivetrain would probably be the best combination of factory parts for highest top speed. What's the top speed of an R2 Avanti? I would suspect that it would be higher than either, even though the Avanti is heavier, due to its being almost as aerodynamic as the 53-54. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 > > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > nate R2 Avanti record was 160 mph IIRC (back in 1963) JT From what I have read if the same running gear was in all cars the speed would rate as, slowest to fastest,: 1. Lark 2. Hawk 3. Avanti 4. 53/4 coupe. It's all aerodynamics at this point. Wiz. >> > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 >> > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > JT I think so, although I'm going on memory that the early coupe was actually slipperier than the Avanti. It was pretty close, either way, so that would be a good race! nate > From what I have read if the same running gear was in all cars the speed > would rate as, slowest to fastest,: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> >>JT Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > > > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 > > > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > JT Hi, The speeds advertised by Studebaker for the R-2 powered cars with the same gearing was: Lark -132, Hawk - 140, Avanti - 158. The Avanti is more slipppery than the coupe. It has an estimated coffecient of drag of around .38 compared to the coupe's estimated 4.0 -4.2. Even if the cd's were the same. the Avanti presents a smaller frontal area and thus pushes less air. Jack What gearing got them those speeds? >>>> When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 >>>> MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jack SignatureRemove the studebaker to email. The only label that fits: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1908 1953 Starlight Coupe 1954 Starlight Coupe R1/4-speed 1958 Silver Hawk 1960 Frua Italia Larks (2 - they're here!) 1962 Lark VI 1962 Lark Convertible 1963 Avanti R2 R4324 1963 Lark Cruiser (R2 3/4 clone in progress) 1963 GT Hawk 1963 Daytona Wagonaire 1964 Cruiser (Survivor) 1954 3R11 1956 2E7 2004 Porsche Carrera 4S 2000 Ducati 748 2002 Jeep Overland http://homepage.mac.com/pdrnec/PhotoAlbum81.html 3.07 would take you to over 150 MPH at 6000 RPM. > What gearing got them those speeds? > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Jack SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 65 Daytona Sports Sedan 64 Daytona HT 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) 63 R1 GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Avanti R2 63 Daytona convert 62 Lark 2 door 60 Hawk 60 Lark Convert 51 Commander If I remember correctly, the R3 record Avanti used a 2.87 gear, which worked out to about 7000 RPM at 171 MPH. I bought that rear end from Joe Granatelli about 1968. > What gearing got them those speeds? > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Jack > > > > When Studebaker advertised the package Lark and Hawk they stated 132 > > > > MPH with the Lark and 140 MPH with the Hawk. Doesn't it seem the Lark [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jack Agreed. I think that was proven by the ill-fated attempt by running a (Blake) Avanti in the Datona (24 hours???) in the early 1980's. Despite be given a lousy pole position, the Avanti quickly began to pass most of its competition but later suffered a catostrophic electrical failure, (car spun out), but managed to finish the race. JT I never appreciated aerodynamics so much till i started drag racing slot cars, just 1/8 inch in height made a big difference in times, My favorite slot car was a hard body 53 Stude coupe that won many races in its class, Low & Go. Bob Whiten Wagonmaster http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore |
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