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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / August 2006saginaw P/S help
anyone got a pic of a '55-58 C-K with Saginaw P/S that can tell me how the pressure hose is routed? I'm trying to get my car hooked back up and for the life of me I can't get that hose routed so it doesn't have a big loop or kink in it. Shop manual pic looks like it's for a sedan or something. I just ASSumed that I'd be able to figure it out easily, but I can't. Car had some homemade hose on it before that guess what, had a big kink in it, so I don't have any reference. I got what should be the right stuff from Lee because he said it all came off a '55 coupe, but it doesn't want to cooperate with me. thanks, nate > anyone got a pic of a '55-58 C-K with Saginaw P/S that can tell me how > the pressure hose is routed? I'm trying to get my car hooked back up [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > nate I'm guessing that the hose is the same for a sedan vs c/k. If true, the c/k would have to have a loop to accommodate the set back of the engine. Yes? JT >>anyone got a pic of a '55-58 C-K with Saginaw P/S that can tell me how >>the pressure hose is routed? I'm trying to get my car hooked back up [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > JT I would think so, but it's a serious loop. I found a pic of a '55 Prez coupe on eBay and the pressure hose appears to turn down right behind the pump. The one I have has about 3" of steel line sticking out of it (which the car in the pic does not) meaning that I would have to either bend it in half and stick it under the clip, or else find an alternate routing for it, which doesn't appear possible without running the risk of hitting the manifold. Can anyone with an original C-K confirm that the hose is run under a wire clip bolted to the rack cover, and does it have the same metal tube that I do? At this point, I'm going to have a new hose that I already had made shortened by the 3" length of the steel tube and use that, unless someone tells me not to. nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel I would just have it shortened to suit. There's no danger of it getting caught in anything and besides, the cars already modified... JT > >>anyone got a pic of a '55-58 C-K with Saginaw P/S that can tell me how > >>the pressure hose is routed? I'm trying to get my car hooked back up [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering Supplement there is a picture that isn't in the other manuals. It shows the hoses in a Champion, and at a different angle. Also, notice in the shop manual picture it shows a couple clips that help route the hoses. Weren't your 'new' hoses used long enough to take a 'set' in their previous configuration? > Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different > pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > help route the hoses. Weren't your 'new' hoses used long enough to take > a 'set' in their previous configuration? I'm starting to think that I have a pressure hose from a sedan... since they're so hard to find, maybe someone used one from a sedan to keep the car on the road? nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > > Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different > > pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > nate I had new hoses made up for my '55 sedan but removed the system because I could not find the correct steering column boot. I purposely had the return hose made extra long so that I could utilize a GM power steering cooler in that circuit. Now, I believe that SI has repro boots available and am thinking of reinstalling the system. Power steering on a sedan would be very nice... JT >>>Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different >>>pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > JT Diff'rent strokes, I guess. I wouldn't even bother, except I haven't seen a Saginaw manual C-K box for sale in... well, since before I bought this car. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > >>>Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different > >>>pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > nate I believe that the manual Saginaw was only used on Champions (non variable ratio). JT >>>>>Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different >>>>>pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > JT I believe you're right, but that's the steering box I'd want if I were going to swap. nate Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > >>>>>Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different > >>>>>pressure hoses for sedan and C-K. In the 1953 Hydraulic Power Steering [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > nate Absolutely. I have one that I bought about fifteen years ago that eventually is destined for the Power Hawk where the current Ross box is crap and I don't even have 100K on that car... JT I used a saginaw box from a late Lark and used a rag joint to keep my original column in my 53 coupe It steers great no need for power steering. SignatureJerry Kaiser (Studeblu) 64 One Ton 61 Champ pick up 53 Starlight Coupe ( pinky) 53 2R6 57 Silver Hawk 37 President >> >>>>Parts listing shows all hoses the same for V8 or 6cyl., but different [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > nate Would you be kind 'nuff to supply a few pics (if you have 'em)? JT (Who has all the stuff for Chebby drums for the T-Cab but has yet to execute the deed... Procrastination sometimes becomes a way of life!) > I used a saginaw box from a late Lark and used a rag joint to > keep my original column in my 53 coupe [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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