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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / January 2007

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3 Speed Floor Shift Conversion with OD

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scottlrodgers@gmail.com - 27 Jan 2007 17:07 GMT
Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?

Scott Rodgers
Mike - 27 Jan 2007 18:56 GMT
Hurst used to sell a different kit for OD trans; with longer rods and a
different mount.  Numbers for individual kit parts for different apps were
on line a year or so ago.
             Mike M.
John Poulos - 27 Jan 2007 21:04 GMT
Yes, it will not work without some engineering.

> Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
> tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
> the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?
>
> Scott Rodgers

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Gordon Richmond - 27 Jan 2007 21:23 GMT
>Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
>tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
>the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?
>
>Scott Rodgers

Scott, many years ago, I had a '53 Champion coupe that had been equipped with a 259, 3
speed with O.D. I installed a floor shift, using a generic shifter such as Western Auto or
JC. Whitney sold. It was quite a chore to build the brackets and get the linkage rods to
clear the solenoid, but I made it work.

If I were going to do such a conversion again, I think I'd start with the 4-speed shifter
out of a Monza or similar car. That shifter mounts in the floor, and connects to the
tranny with linkage rods. You could simply block the reverse gate, and use the 1-2 and 3-4
levers to work R-1 and 2-3 respectively. BTW, I'd grab a hunk of the Monza floor with the
shifter, cut a suitable hole in the Stude tunnel, and weld the hunk of Monza floor in
place. Measure twice, cut once, of course. <G>

Actually, come to think of it, I have a '64 Daytona hardtop here with a T85 O.D., and IT
has a floor shift, brand unknown. Shifter works OK, though.

Gord Richmond
oldcarfart - 27 Jan 2007 21:33 GMT
raise the shifter assemble approx. 3" to clear OD.

On Jan 27, 12:07 pm, scottlrodg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
> tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
> the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?
>
> Scott Rodgers
Studebaker George - 27 Jan 2007 21:59 GMT
When I was in high school (a long time ago) I had a Fenton conversion
for my 3OD Hawk.  A high quality item.  Bought it new at a local parts
store.  A couple years ago I bought an NOS in the box exact unit off
ebay for a future project.  They show up there from time to time.
Studebaker George

On Jan 27, 12:07 pm, scottlrodg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
> tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
> the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?
>
> Scott Rodgers
itraseecab@aol.com - 28 Jan 2007 00:57 GMT
When I purchased my Champ truck the T90 tranny w/od had already be
converted to a floor shift. From what the previous owner tells me he
used an aftermarket unit from, I think, JC Whitney. From what I was
told little had to be done to instal the unit. The shifter is close to
the right knee, but it shifts very well.

Joe Roberts

On Jan 27, 12:07 pm, scottlrodg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can the floor shift conversion kit from Hurst be used with the 3 speed
> tranny with Overdrive?  It looks like there would be interference with
> the OD itself.  Has anyone done this?  Do you have pictures?
>
> Scott Rodgers
Jeffrey DeWitt - 28 Jan 2007 03:21 GMT
Something like this?

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENT
RY_ID:2001161/p-2001161/N-111+10201+600003736/c-10101


Of course it doesn't list Studebaker...

Jeff DeWitt

> When I purchased my Champ truck the T90 tranny w/od had already be
> converted to a floor shift. From what the previous owner tells me he
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>> Scott Rodgers
Mike - 28 Jan 2007 08:35 GMT
What trans and car?  More information than Stude and OD, please.
                           Mike M.
scottlrodgers@gmail.com - 28 Jan 2007 15:58 GMT
The tranny is a T86 behind a OHV six in a 63 Wagonaire.

>   What trans and car?  More information than Stude and OD, please.
>                             Mike M.
Gordon Richmond - 28 Jan 2007 23:04 GMT
>The tranny is a T86 behind a OHV six in a 63 Wagonaire.
>
>>   What trans and car?  More information than Stude and OD, please.
>>                             Mike M.

Scott, cars with OHV six usually got the T96 tranny, unless they were equipped with a
heavy duty package like taxis were. Or if the engine-tranny pair came out of a Champ
pickup.

T96 = 4 bolt top cover
T86 = 6 bolt top cover
T85 = side cover

Gord Richmond
scottlrodgers@gmail.com - 29 Jan 2007 03:51 GMT
Yep - you're right.  It's got the 4 bolt top.  It's a T96 - my
mistake.

> >The tranny is a T86 behind a OHV six in a 63 Wagonaire.
>
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>
> Gord Richmond
Gordon Richmond - 29 Jan 2007 06:05 GMT
>Yep - you're right.  It's got the 4 bolt top.  It's a T96 - my
>mistake.

Not picking on you, Scott. Just that if you order the shifter kit for the wrong tranny,
you might be disappointed.

Gord Richmond
Mike - 29 Jan 2007 20:49 GMT
I don't think Hurst ever offered a kit for any Studes except the 4 speeds.
They made a kit for Fords with the T85 which could be used to mount the
shifter in a Stude; but all bets are off about seat clearance.  There was a
separate kit for T-85 OD; with different rods, and probably mounts.
          Mike M.
 
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