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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / February 2007

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atlantic city car show/auction

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edjellis@aol.com - 26 Feb 2007 02:04 GMT
i just got back from the atlantic city  show. there were 2 studebakers
at the show  besides my 53 commander. one was  a 1960?  yellow/ maroon
top/maroon interior  lark convertible--v8 3 spd with ac. a beautiful
car that was a no sale at 30k and a 57 to 61 hawk which i did not get
a good look at but from a distance looked like a nice #3 driver. the
auction which is managed by dean kruse is well run and appears to be
on the up and up was typical of atlantic city ---everything from a pre
war cord to hemi powered mopars, big block camaros , mustangs etc
representing all facets of the hobby/business.
John Poulos - 26 Feb 2007 04:07 GMT
So, how did your Commander do ?

> i just got back from the atlantic city  show. there were 2 studebakers
> at the show  besides my 53 commander. one was  a 1960?  yellow/ maroon
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> war cord to hemi powered mopars, big block camaros , mustangs etc
> representing all facets of the hobby/business.

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Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
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64 Wagonaire
64 Daytona HT
64 Commander 2 dr
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
63 Lark 2 door #2
62 Lark 2 door
62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
60 Hawk
60 Lark Hardtop
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

oldcarfart - 26 Feb 2007 13:30 GMT
> So, how did your Commander do ?
>
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> 52 Starliner
> 51 Commander

after he got flack from selling his truck for a quarter mil last time,
he may be reluctant to tell <boseg>
Jeff Sheaffer - 26 Feb 2007 14:14 GMT
The '53 Commander was a no sale at $39,000. Its a beautiful car. The '52
Commander convertable was a no sale at $17,500. The Lark didn't go over the
block yet when I was there, but could have been bought for $33,000 before
the auction.
I didn't see the hawk there.
Pics here.   http://rides.webshots.com/album/557875040JBLOIE

>> So, how did your Commander do ?
>>
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> after he got flack from selling his truck for a quarter mil last time,
> he may be reluctant to tell <boseg>
John Poulos - 26 Feb 2007 14:46 GMT
His Commander was worth that, exceptional car.

> The '53 Commander was a no sale at $39,000. Its a beautiful car. The '52
> Commander convertable was a no sale at $17,500. The Lark didn't go over the
> block yet when I was there, but could have been bought for $33,000 before
> the auction.
> I didn't see the hawk there.
> Pics here.   http://rides.webshots.com/album/557875040JBLOIE

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JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 Wagonaire
64 Daytona HT
64 Commander 2 dr
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
63 Lark 2 door #2
62 Lark 2 door
62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
60 Hawk
60 Lark Hardtop
59 3E truck
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Jeff Sheaffer - 26 Feb 2007 14:53 GMT
I agree with you John. It is a beautiful car.

> His Commander was worth that, exceptional car.
>
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>> I didn't see the hawk there.
>> Pics here.   http://rides.webshots.com/album/557875040JBLOIE
edjellis@aol.com - 26 Feb 2007 15:53 GMT
and now for the rest of the story----because of a business related
schedule conflict which i wasn't able to change until the last minute
i was not able to register for a good time slot for the auction
[saturday between noon and 8pm is considered prime time] so the best i
could do was go on the block on thurs at about 3pm. the car was bid to
39k which didn't make my reserve of 44.5k. i figured that if it
brought 39k on thurs it might have gone for above the reserve on
saturday. i decided to hang around after the auctioneer told me he
would like to rerun it on sat if they had a cancellation. i stayed
around  the floor hoping for a private sale which didn't happen and by
saturday at 4pm they had no cancellations so with a bad weather
forecast for early sunday AM i decided i didn't want to take the
chance of not selling it on the block [if a cancellation had occured]
and then having to trailer it back in the snow,sleet and salt early
sunday morning. WTF the way i see it is a 53 commander [no rust ever]
with less than 18k original miles, a 3spd, leather interior, bombay
red, frame off restoration isn't going to get any less valuable
sitting in my garage.   ed
N8N - 26 Feb 2007 16:20 GMT
On Feb 26, 10:53 am, "edjel...@aol.com" <edjel...@aol.com> wrote:
> and now for the rest of the story----because of a business related
> schedule conflict which i wasn't able to change until the last minute
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> red, frame off restoration isn't going to get any less valuable
> sitting in my garage.   ed

You're probably right.  In one way I hate to see prices getting that
high, because that's the kind of car I'd like to own someday, but it's
hard to argue with it when I see prices for less rare Brand-X iron
going higher.

nate
edjellis@aol.com - 26 Feb 2007 16:51 GMT
nate, as a hobbyist i share your concerns especially for the young
guys like you trying to get started in the hobby but as a seller i am
relieved to see the values of my studebaker collection finally
catching up with the brand x vehicles. unlike the brand x guys  most
of us that have restored studebakers struggle to get our money out of
them when it is time to sell. at 61 with 8 cars and trucks in the
fleet i am fast running out of sunny weekends. i am gradually selling
off most of the vehicles so that instead of spending all my weekends
washing, polishing, changing oil, charging batteries, etc i will be
able to have some fun with the 2 or 3 vehicles i intend to keep. ed
oldcarfart - 26 Feb 2007 18:56 GMT
> On Feb 26, 10:53 am, "edjel...@aol.com" <edjel...@aol.com> wrote:
>
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Nate, You should see about getting a good education and maybe a job as
an engineer or so and not live on such a tight budget, or just marry
for money! <grin>
Grumpy AuContraire - 26 Feb 2007 23:57 GMT
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>>You're probably right.  In one way I hate to see prices getting that
>>high, because that's the kind of car I'd like to own someday, but it's
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> an engineer or so and not live on such a tight budget, or just marry
> for money! <grin>

Just follow the example of that great American, JFK (and I don't mean
Kennedy), and marry into real money!

JT
Nate Nagel - 27 Feb 2007 00:10 GMT
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>
> JT

Ha ha, very funny...  I think the plan is to wait a couple years and get
some equity in the house and then get the hell out of DC-land if I can.
 I make good money here but the cost of living is stupid high!  If I
made what I made now anywhere else I've ever lived, I'd be set.

nate

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Pat Drnec - 27 Feb 2007 00:18 GMT
Ummmm - better not try California....

> Ha ha, very funny...  I think the plan is to wait a couple years and get
> some equity in the house and then get the hell out of DC-land if I can.
>  I make good money here but the cost of living is stupid high!  If I
> made what I made now anywhere else I've ever lived, I'd be set.
>
> nate

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1950 Champion
1951 Starlight Coupe Custom
1953 Starlight Coupe
1954 Starlight Coupe R1/4-speed
1958 Silver Hawk
1960 Frua Italia Larks (2 - they're here!)
1962 Lark VI
1962 Lark Convertible
1963 Avanti R2 R4324
1963 Lark Daytona
1963 Lark Cruiser (R2 3/4 clone in progress)
1963 GT Hawk
1963 Daytona Wagonaire
1964 Cruiser (Survivor)
1954 3R11
1956 2E7
1985 Jeep CJ-7
2004 Porsche Carrera 4S
2002 Ducati 996
2002 Jeep Overland
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Nate Nagel - 27 Feb 2007 01:20 GMT
The thought never crossed my mind, oddly enough...

nate

> Ummmm - better not try California....
>
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>> nate

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