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Car Forum / Antique and Collectibles / Studebaker / March 2007Correct engine????
Correct engine! Who the "F---" cares??????? I went to a nice show last Saturday. After walking around a bit, I spotted a car the freaked me out. There, as pretty as could be was a 56 Power Hawk that was exactly the same two tone paint scheme as my Dad's was in '57. I drove that car quite a bit (Dad was suprisingly OK about that). In August of 59 I drove it from South Jersey to Cape Cod by myself ( never got lost either). I looked the car over carefully to find that the owner had done a very admirable job of restoring it. I don't know how much he knew about Studebakers but I did see that it had the wrong engine. It was a later model "full flow" engine with a 4-bbl WCFB on top. Everything else looked very correct so I don't know whether he was aware of the incorrectness of the engine. But that's one of the nice tings about AACA; their judges don't know enough to be looking for technical accuracy. Like I asked, "Who the "F---" cares?? That car was NICE and I would take it any day. Dexter I second that!! I have 3 nice cars and one is a Studebaker Hawk. None of them are correct. Here is an example, I painted my Hawk arctic white because I like it a lot better than that off white Studebaker used. Could you believe someone at a little local show told me that wasn't the right color. I said I know but I like it. In a little while I see his car and he has the right color cause I hear him bragging to someone about it. Well I looked at it and the paint was very slick and wet looking like no car in the 50's had. Should I have told him his paint wasn't correct? OH BTW other things on the hawk aren't correct the way the correct police think it should be. When I take it to little shows the spectators love it and don't know or care about how correct it is, they do enjoy looking at it just as much as the correct ones. > Correct engine! Who the "F---" cares??????? > I went to a nice show last Saturday. After walking around a bit, I spotted [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > any day. > Dexter I'll run my incorrect engine against your correct engine any old time <g>... Jeff "L.D." wrote> > I second that!! > I have 3 nice cars and one is a Studebaker Hawk. None of them are correct. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> it any day. >> Dexter  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I second that!! > I have 3 nice cars and one is a Studebaker Hawk. None of them are correct. "Not correct," "Incorrect," and "Wrong" are piss poor ways to describe something that has been modified. "Not as original/factory" is more appropriate. SignatureDave Lester www.davesplaceinc.com I think you will find that most of us aren't as anal about those things as some other clubs are. If I see a Hawk like you described yes I'll notice the oil filter, realize it wasn't the original engine and if I think about it much further than that will think it's a nice upgrade. Now if I see a Chebby motor I wouldn't be so rude as to say anything, but I'll THINK too bad, and it needs an engine upgrade. Jeff DeWitt > Correct engine! Who the "F---" cares??????? > I went to a nice show last Saturday. After walking around a bit, I spotted [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > any day. > Dexter > I think you will find that most of us aren't as anal about those things > as some other clubs are. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - y'all are welcome to open your pie holes anytime about my stuff, just remember YOU started the conversation and my forehead does not have a scrolling marquee stating "talk to this guy" and don't acted shocked by my answers either! <grin> Your car your choice, if my opinion is asked I'll give it but I'm not about to be so stupid and rude as to criticize someone at a show because I don't care for their choice of engines! Jeff DeWitt >> I think you will find that most of us aren't as anal about those things >> as some other clubs are. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > scrolling marquee stating "talk to this guy" and don't acted shocked > by my answers either! <grin> Personally I prefer the maker's engine in ANY old car, but It doesn't bother me if there is a friggin' Mercury outboard under (or poking through) the hood...as long as it's a neat installation. What DOES bother me is when people start the matching number sh.t. When the cars were in service and an engine blew, the tech was handed an engine and some stamps to number it. Most didn't even bother with the stamps. Look at the insanity going on in some of the other clubs; paying huge sums for a rusty hull just to get the small piece of metal that has the numbers and then building a car around that. I would rather see a beat up Lark with a Briggs & Stratton under the hood being driven to a show than some trailered number whore. Studebaker George Glad to see some discussion about "correct engine" issues, or "correct anything" issues. I'm building a '55 C body, which was wrecked, and had not been on the road since '81. Additionally, it was just a shell. I really love the style of the C/K bodies, and wanted to put one back on the road. I have built a custom front clip, using Dodge Dakota, MII, and Camaro components. The rear end is S10, the wiper motor is out of a bus, and the radiator is custom aluminum. And to freak out many , then engine and trans are Chevy. I'm building it the way I want, and don't really care what others think. Just doesn't bother me, the way someone else builds their ride. I may appreciate it, or may think it isn't the way I would have done it, but I don't bad mouth other's rides. For what it is worth, I do appreciate those who are able to maintain a ride true to its' original form. I saved two cars (parts car is very buildable) from the crusher, to build one, and I am doing it my way. Would be a boring world if we were all the same. Thx, for listening, Stan You do just that! And you can still be friends about it too! This is supposed to be an enthusiast's club for fun and sharing driving experiences. It is sad when someone looks down their nose at another person's ride and makes a judgment about it. And what does it say about that situation when the person bought it that way? Does it make the car any less of an interesting vehicle? Only to some... That's like saying Carroll Shelby is not legitimate since he had a heart transplant. I absolutely adore Studebaker engines, big chunks of cast iron that they are. I also love Allis Chalmers, Oil Pull, and Maytag engines. Build your Stude, do it well, and drive the snot out of it. Heck with everyone else (and THAT is the true Studebaker spirit!) Jeff "tempestan" wrote... > Glad to see some discussion about "correct engine" issues, or "correct > anything" issues. I'm building a '55 C body, which was wrecked, and had [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > crusher, to build one, and I am doing it my way. Would be a boring world > if we were all the same. Thx, for listening, Stan SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > You do just that! > And you can still be friends about it too! [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com AMEN to Jeff TOO!!!!! I have a Maytag twin, a very early Novo 2-1/2 HP and an Economy 1- 1/2HP > You do just that! > And you can still be friends about it too! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> crusher, to build one, and I am doing it my way. Would be a boring world >> if we were all the same. Thx, for listening, Stan > Personally I prefer the maker's engine in ANY old car, but It doesn't > bother me if there is a friggin' Mercury outboard under (or poking [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > being driven to a show than some trailered number whore. > Studebaker George AMEN REV Stude George! Keep preachin the gospel!!! (my $o.o3 worth) Yeah, but I have seen you give 'that look' to 'those' people..<lol> Wait!... You were looking at me! Why, You elitist snob... <g> Jeff ( Once you've been downgraded, grovel in the dirt.. it aint so bad...) Rice "Jeffrey DeWitt" wrote... >I think you will find that most of us aren't as anal about those things as >some other clubs are. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'll THINK too bad, and it needs an engine upgrade. > Jeff DeWitt >> Correct engine! Who the "F---" cares??????? >> I went to a nice show last Saturday. After walking around a bit, I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> it any day. >> Dexter SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com C'mon now, Jeffy, <G> You know my second favorite is GM... Matter of fact, the only other brand X vehicles I own are GM... Just don't get me near any F**ds....I get to shakin' all over...and cussin'...and generally actin' more strange than usual (if that's possible)...and I get REAL weird if I see a F**d engine in a Studebaker... Studebaker George (forgot that I do own a Metropolitan at the moment but it is outward bound real soon) > Yeah, but I have seen you give 'that look' to 'those' people..<lol> > Wait!... You were looking at me! > Why, You elitist snob... <g> > Jeff ( Once you've been downgraded, grovel in the dirt.. it aint so bad...) > Rice |
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