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Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV?  SignatureSave The Studebaker....Save the World From what I have heard, "monster" cables are one of the biggest scams/rip offs aroung these days... JT > Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV? Not so much with analog HDTV cables since the frequencies involved require High quality cables. With audio, patch cords costing over $100 or so is pretty much snake oil. We sold cables for over $1000/meter in my store, cost us about a forth of that. > From what I have heard, "monster" cables are one of the biggest > scams/rip offs aroung these days... > > JT > >> Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander Depends a lot if you are using analog or digital hookup. Analog HDTV signals are ordinarily component video (Y/Pb/Pr), but can be RGB (usually RGBHV, but there are other varieties). Good quality cables are fairly important. Digital video cables are just like your printer cable, just 0 and 1 bits, and any decent cable works. > Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV? SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but they supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of box, along with S-Video. The image(s) are sometimes fantastic, and sometimes soft. I have to think that using HDMI or S-video might make a difference, or possibly getting the "Monster Cables". The loss of three years has really screwed with my technology gap. BG SignatureSave The Studebaker....Save the World > Depends a lot if you are using analog or digital hookup. > > Analog HDTV signals are ordinarily component video (Y/Pb/Pr), but can be > RGB (usually RGBHV, but there are other varieties). Good quality cables > are fairly important. Use the HDMI cable for the best picture (digital) You may need to go to the setup menu on your TV and select HDMI input. > They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but they > supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of box, along [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > BG SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander > Use the HDMI cable for the best picture (digital) You may need to go to > the setup menu on your TV and select HDMI input. Yes, assuming that HDMI is enabled at the box. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB "Digital" signals from your friendly cable company are by most reports inferior to those of OTA and satellite sources. JT > They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but they > supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of box, along [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > BG > "Digital" signals from your friendly cable company are by most reports > inferior to those of OTA and satellite sources. > > JT Not necessarily. It varies widely from company to company. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB I don't know if I agree with that, I've got DirecTV and the quality of some stations is on par with poor cable connections. These companies are putting 300 channels on satellites designed for 30 channels by compressing the quality to the point where it's barely watchable. The same is true with Cable and HDTV, compare the signal you get off of your cable with the 100% uncompressed signal you get by pulling it in off a regular television antenna/rabbit ears. You'll be shocked to see how much the cable company is compressing the signal. Where digital signals are either on or off... no "poor signal", but throw in compression and you end up with "poor signal" reception. Lee > "Digital" signals from your friendly cable company are by most reports > inferior to those of OTA and satellite sources. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> BG SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I don't know if I agree with that, I've got DirecTV and the quality of > some stations is on par with poor cable connections. These companies are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lee Even the stations you receive ota are compressed, just not as much as others like cable or satellite. The local cable company here does a good job with hd, using the full bandwidth of 19.4 mbps. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB > I don't know if I agree with that, I've got DirecTV and the quality of some > stations is on par with poor cable connections. These companies are putting [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> >>> BG W H A T A B O U T.... Verizon FIOS. The buried the glass cable last December and say it will be online in June. Our town just gave Verizon permission to distribute cable in our area. There is no talk of "fiberoptics" in any of their ads. CableVision/Optomin On Line says we have fiberoptics out at the "poles" but there ain't no little glass wires, just that old RF stuff. Maybe tomorrow I will call them and ask if I can use HDMI. BG > W H A T A B O U T.... Verizon FIOS. The buried the glass cable last > December and say it will be online in June. I'm only reflecting on what I've heard and read since I have neither, cable or satellite. I have 'nuff of the vast wasteland as it is... JT > I don't know if I agree with that, I've got DirecTV and the quality of some > stations is on par with poor cable connections. These companies are putting [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> >>>BG > They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but they > supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of box, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > BG HDMI and component carry hd signals. HDMI is digital, component is analog. S-video is not hd in any way. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB > > They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but > > they supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chip Bill. The Monster Cables will only make a difference in your pocketbook. Don't buy them! Try the HDMI cable first. Did you get one from the cable company? If not, I will send you one. Please don't buy Monster Cables! Did I mention you shouldn't buy Monster Cables? DON'T MAKE ME COME DOWN THERE AND SET YOUR TELEVISION UP FOR YOU! I WILL, YOU KNOW! <G> (Really!) Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB GOT the PICTURE.........I swear I won't buy Monster Cables...........I swear, but you can still come down, and this time stay for lunch, dinner whatever. Bill ......who won't buy Monster Cables........Glass SignatureSave The Studebaker....Save the World >> > They (the Cable Company) claim we are getting "digital" signals, but >> > they supply Y/Pb/Pr cables made in Taiwan. There is HDMI coming out of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Chip > GOT the PICTURE.........I swear I won't buy Monster Cables...........I > swear, but you can still come down, and this time stay for lunch, dinner [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Save The Studebaker....Save the World Sounds good Bill! Maybe we can work on a t-shirt design. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB Sounds even better SignatureSave The Studebaker....Save the World >> GOT the PICTURE.........I swear I won't buy Monster Cables...........I >> swear, but you can still come down, and this time stay for lunch, dinner [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chip > Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV? Save your money, Bill. Check these two websites: www.monoprice.com and www.svideo.com Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB Bill I am in the custom audio video business. We deal with HDTV every day. Monster cables are a SAFE way to go if money is no object. However Monster Cable has a name that you pay a premium for. We sell HDMI cables for about 1/2 of what monster wants. I always offer the customer a choice. My cables at x dollors or Monster at twice the price. People buy both. I cannot see (or hear) the differance. My distributers tell me that highly sophisticated test equipment will prove that Monster is best, but 99.9% of the people cannot hear or see the differance. >Does buying "Monster Cables" make that big a difference in HDTV? > Bill I am in the custom audio video business. We deal with HDTV > every day. Monster cables are a SAFE way to go if money is no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > equipment will prove that Monster is best, but 99.9% of the people > cannot hear or see the differance. No offense intended to you in any way, Paul, but your distributors are full of it. They want to sell the items with the biggest markup. That's Monster Cable and similiar lines. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB Yeah, what's he know about it - he's just in that business. <g> >> Bill I am in the custom audio video business. We deal with HDTV >> every day. Monster cables are a SAFE way to go if money is no [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Chip SignatureRemove the Studebaker to email. The only label that fits: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml 1950 Champion 1951 Starlight Coupe Custom 1953 Starlight Coupe 1954 Starlight Coupe R1/4-speed 1958 Silver Hawk 1960 Frua Italia Larks (2 - they're here!) 1962 Lark VI 1962 Lark Convertible 1963 Avanti R2 R4324 1963 Lark Daytona 1963 Lark Cruiser (R2 3/4 clone in progress) 1963 GT Hawk 1963 Daytona Wagonaire 1964 Cruiser (Survivor) 1954 3R11 1956 2E7 1985 Jeep CJ-7 2004 Porsche Carrera 4S 2002 Ducati 996 2002 Jeep Overland http://homepage.mac.com/pdrnec/PhotoAlbum81.html > Yeah, what's he know about it - he's just in that business. <g> Yes, and that business is about huge markups on accessories. I'm not in the business, but have been involved in it as a consumer over 30 years. I use my experience to guide me, not someone that is trying to make money off of me. Again, no offense to Paul. This is just the way that I see it. Chip Signature-------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB Just read an article about Circuit City firing about 3500 of it's workers. <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=circuit+city&btnG=Search+News> Not just any workers, but just the high priced ones. They are being offered their same jobs back, but at a lower pay scale. Management calls it a payroll cost reduction plan. Caterpillar was also cited for instituting a similar program. <cjdaytonjr wrote... > Yes, and that business is about huge markups on accessories. > I'm not in the business, but have been involved in it as a > consumer over 30 years. I use my experience to guide me, not > someone that is trying to make money off of me. Again, no > offense to Paul. This is just the way that I see it. >> Yeah, what's he know about it - he's just in that business. <g> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Welcome to the new America... where the only people that count are stockholders. And you know there are some executives within Circuit City who will receive multi-millon dollar bonuses for reducing payroll expenses. Lee > Just read an article about Circuit City firing about 3500 of it's workers. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Management calls it a payroll cost reduction plan. > Caterpillar was also cited for instituting a similar program. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com That's how I quit my auto parts sales job, they intended to cut my territory in half because I was making "too much money" I was replaced by two idiots that lost them about 30% of their business, but a 6% commission of on 700K of sales was less then my 6% of a million. Of course the 140K in profit they lost sorta offset the 18K they saved on my salary. that.<g> I think the same thing may happen at Circuit City since I prefer to shop there instead of Best Buy because of the sales help. > Just read an article about Circuit City firing about 3500 of it's workers. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >>> Yeah, what's he know about it - he's just in that business. <g> SignatureJP/Maryland Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/ 64 Wagonaire 64 Daytona HT 64 Commander 2 dr 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk 63 Avanti R1 63 Daytona convert 63 Lark 2 door 63 Lark 2 door #2 62 Lark 2 door 62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed 60 Hawk 59 3E truck 52 Starlight 52 Starliner 51 Commander No argument from me about people selling accessories that nobody really needs, but I thought Paul's comment was absolutely spot on in that he points out that he can't tell the difference. I have no doubt that Monster Cables can prove that their cables are technically the best, but there's this thing called the rule of diminishing returns. Those who demand the best regardless of cost are getting what they're paying for, and those who simply want to watch TV are getting value. Anybody's welcome to try to make money off me - it's up to me to decide what's worthwhile. >> Yeah, what's he know about it - he's just in that business. <g> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Chip SignatureRemove the Studebaker to email. The only label that fits: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6966.shtml 1950 Champion 1951 Starlight Coupe Custom 1953 Starlight Coupe 1954 Starlight Coupe R1/4-speed 1958 Silver Hawk 1960 Frua Italia Larks (2 - they're here!) 1962 Lark VI 1962 Lark Convertible 1963 Avanti R2 R4324 1963 Lark Daytona 1963 Lark Cruiser (R2 3/4 clone in progress) 1963 GT Hawk 1963 Daytona Wagonaire 1964 Cruiser (Survivor) 1954 3R11 1956 2E7 1985 Jeep CJ-7 2004 Porsche Carrera 4S 2002 Ducati 996 2002 Jeep Overland http://homepage.mac.com/pdrnec/PhotoAlbum81.html |
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